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See attached. Anyway, I think they should have made the body of the car look like a commode to finish the look. It would be an improvement.

Camaro owners could get a Retro 70's look by placing a giant toilet lid shag carpet over the hood.
Dude I take jokes very well and have a good sense of humor. I am just not seeing this.

PS: I totally see the owl boner on the inside. Just not this.
 
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Keep in mind that you are comparing a boosted inline four to a NA v6 camaro. A turbo charger or a supercharger on that v6 might even put it above the gt. The car weight 3339 lbs and with a turbo or a supercharger probably around 3400+ lbs, now also add the 1le package to it, then we have something pretty amazing!
Yeah, but by that token a tune is $500 for the turbo. Boosting an N/A car is never going to be that cheap. Obviously, I agree that a boosted V6 has higher potential, just like boosting a V8 continues the trend.

I would like to see a comparison of a full bolt-on EB vs the Camaro V6 bolt-ons. I think you'll still see better numbers with the boosted 4.
 

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It has curves...

People who think the hood looks like a toilet lid has zero imagination! Toilet lids don't have curved up sides! They are completely flat or curved down! It looks more like a stingray or a manta ray than a toilet lid!
But it don't look like a Ray. It looks like a toilet lid. Now maybe a fat dude sat on the lid and warped it....

Check out the attachment: "Someone left the Lid up" I'd be tempted to take a dump in there.
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Camaro front end

And this is how our front of the mustangs look like! They are beautiful animals to be honest!
This is what the 16' looks like:

The 2010-2013 Camaro's looked like Transformer cars, cartoonish, but at least they had cool retro looking round lights. The 16' is even more cartoonish.
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But it don't look like a Ray. It looks like a toilet lid. Now maybe a fat dude sat on the lid and warped it....

Check out the attachment: "Someone left the Lid up" I'd be tempted to take a dump in there.
:lol:

You can dump a lt1 in my gt anytime :thumbsup:
 

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But it don't look like a Ray. It looks like a toilet lid. Now maybe a fat dude sat on the lid and warped it....

Check out the attachment: "Someone left the Lid up" I'd be tempted to take a dump in there.
Is the guy in the top left of the photo part of the joke? :cool:
 

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But it don't look like a Ray. It looks like a toilet lid. Now maybe a fat dude sat on the lid and warped it....

Check out the attachment: "Someone left the Lid up" I'd be tempted to take a dump in there.
Damn Tm I had to laugh out loud for real. :lol:
 

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Looking at both the Mustang and Camaro at the local car show back-back confirmed our decision buying the Mustang.

Camaro:
Likes-
-Styling much improved; the added curves gave it some shape vs. the slab sides
-Seats were very comfortable; interior material on the 2lt were good
Dislikes
-the visibility was still limited; out the back was a joke.
-the dash layout looked strange vs. the Mustang and less functional.
-Runflat tires? No thanks.
-Price--the V6 2lt was close to $40K--that seemed crazy

Overall--an improvement over the previous car but expensive; GM seems to like the edgy styling vs. retro.

Add a tune to a base EB along with the PP and you've got a car that will do everything the new camaro will do and look better doing it.
 

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It all really comes down to what flips your flopper. Both pretty good cars, any of them provide a great drive. No way a V6 of one is going to give a v8 of another fits though.
 

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If your only selling 5000 cars a month, you have a lot more time to align panels and QC.

Ford doesn't even have enough time to upgrade any standard equipment or options.

I believe it was two or three (correction, 13 Mustangs) 2015-2016 Mustang's were sold an hour in the North America.

It's like listening to Batman v. Superman critics...

...then watching sales fly out the window...

Ford can't even make changes for 2017... It's selling too fast...


Edit:

The math says 13 Mustang's are sold an hour or almost 333 a DAY.

That's North America... this is a Sports Coupe...
 

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This is what the 16' looks like:

The 2010-2013 Camaro's looked like Transformer cars, cartoonish, but at least they had cool retro looking round lights. The 16' is even more cartoonish.
Ouch...


...but it's true...
 

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Keep in mind that you are comparing a boosted inline four to a NA v6 camaro. A turbo charger or a supercharger on that v6 might even put it above the gt. The car weight 3339 lbs and with a turbo or a supercharger probably around 3400+ lbs, now also add the 1le package to it, then we have something pretty amazing!
I don't really see this as a viable comparison, Simple tune will have the EB outperforming the Camaro all day. it gets worse with bolt ons.

Bolting up FI to an NA car is not a Bolt on affair so Take the Camaro already at a price disadvantage to the EB (nearly Equal my MAP P1.5 kit) and add how much for a proper super/turbo kit $4-7k?



An Eco will run 11s on a tune and Intercooler.

Give me that $4-7k on an Eco and watch it smoke SS's on the strip or track all day long. I bet, like the mustangs's V6 there is not alot of boost you can put through the V6 without building it first.

Once built it is just a question of who has deeper pockets.
 

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Didn't have any body panel fit issues on either of my Mustangs -- but I've heard other folks have too often to discount it, either. I think it's one of those things to be aware of when picking one off the lot. Check before you sign.

I did have an annoying b-pillar rattle that drove me nuts for awhile. I tried all kinds of things to make it go away. Nothing worked. Then one day it went away on its own *shrug*.

So I wonder if the reviewer just got unlucky with his Mustang, and lucky with his Camaro. 'cause this minor factory defect stuff seems almost random.

I will say, though, that the Camaro's V6 sounds better than the Ecoboost 4. But, on the flip side of that, the Camaro RS V6 creeps into the same price range as a base model Mustang GT. Maybe the Camaro *is* a better car in a lot of ways, but you do pay extra for that.
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