EcoBoost sales vs GT

[Natpag]

you can't go wrong with the V8

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[scottpe]

My 2012 was a black premium with glass roof and was black (mods included kooks long tubes, boss intake, jlt cai, borla s type axelback, barton shifter, 93 dyno tune) I felt the car was so nice that I didn't drive it. How could I put miles on something so nice? This time I'm looking for a DD. I'm thinking ingot silver base gt with PP and possibly recaros. I'm planning on the whipple 2.9 that they are developing for this model as well.

I'm a little stumped by this comment. So a 2012 with a few bolt-ons was "too nice" to drive, but a 2015 GT with PP, Recaros and a Whipple somehow doesn't qualify as being as nice, so you'll drive it more? :shrug: So a handful of extra creature comforts make a car too nice to drive?

 

[Five Oh Brian]

That's a pretty good number for V8. What mpg did you notice for completely city driving?

My daily driving requirement is not much, with my previous car I only drove about 800 - 900 miles a month and it was all with in city with lots of stops. My GC gave me 17 mpg in city. I don't feel very confident about 2.3L engine after reading about other EB engines now. :help: And 14 Mustang V8 is actually rated to 18/25 which is slightly better than my GC.

My city MPG isn't very representative due to my lead foot. I romp on it quite a lot. Somewhere around 12-13 mpg. It is slightly better now with some carefully chosen modifications I made to the car.

 

[Natpag]

I'm a little stumped by this comment. So a 2012 with a few bolt-ons was "too nice" to drive, but a 2015 GT with PP, Recaros and a Whipple somehow doesn't qualify as being as nice, so you'll drive it more? :shrug: So a handful of extra creature comforts make a car too nice to drive?

I know it sounds weird! But I only put 9500 miles on that car. I've been riding in cloth beaters my whole life. I figure if I get a base it'll seem closer to home for me. Now the whipple will be there just to give me the feeling I want from a mustang... you know that shakey stomach

 

[Natpag]

One more thing is that the long tube headers made my ride too loud for where I lived, so never again will I get that mod! (unless I get a track only car)

 

[Spartan]

The eco boost will have to be driven light to get the gas mileage they will no doubt claim. Well lets see how that goes over when owners realize they are in boost almost all the time and the gas mileage is worse than a 6er.

It will still do better then the v6. And there is no way they build this engine, claim good MPG and base the car around having to drive at under 40 mph.

 

[aspensilver]

It will still do better then the v6. And there is no way they build this engine, claim good MPG and base the car around having to drive at under 40 mph.

Agree the Ecoboost driven the same as the V6 will get better MPG, especially on the Highway if you keep the speeds around 70. However that gap will be smaller and smaller the harder you get on the gas. I have a 1.6L fusion ecoboost and with lead foot + driving 80mph on HW I get 25.4 combined. 182hp on tap, I think I'd get like 22 in an EB mustang. I get 19.5 in my V8 BMW (300hp)

I think where the EB truly shines is for someone who commutes and also wants to morph into a lead footer come the weekend or whenever.

 

[ARS]

It will still do better then the v6. And there is no way they build this engine, claim good MPG and base the car around having to drive at under 40 mph.

But how much better? Dont forget you are paying extra for a turbo charger. I am too lazy to do the math but its got to be a significant gain and in the real world it wont be. It will never pay for itself based on fuel economy. So, all that is left is the power gain. From my perspective, that is what you pay extra for. Durability is a another discussion but the 3.7 is tried and true.

Never discount Ford to take full advantage of marketing alone and I see they are headed right down this road again. Just beware of the claims on paper. I doubt they will be marketing the Getrag Mt82 much by name though. lol Instead, it will be a close ratio six speed to the unsuspecting consumer.

 

[Spartan]

But how much better? Dont forget you are paying extra for a turbo charger. I am too lazy to do the math but its got to be a significant gain and in the real world it wont be. It will never pay for itself based on fuel economy. So, all that is left is the power gain. From my perspective, that is what you pay extra for. Durability is a another discussion but the 3.7 is tried and true.

Never discount Ford to take full advantage of marketing alone and I see they are headed right down this road again. Just beware of the claims on paper. I doubt they will be marketing the Getrag Mt82 much by name though. lol Instead, it will be a close ratio six speed to the unsuspecting consumer.

Do you really think Ford is going to slack, falsely advertise this engine when this is the future, especially in Europe and the first time there which is big for them?

And the real world is the real world, You put a full spare and then a 300 lb driver who goes 80 all the time and yah, you are going to get shitty mileage in ANY car.

I think you are doubting the 2.3 way too much.

 

[Spartan]

Agree the Ecoboost driven the same as the V6 will get better MPG, especially on the Highway if you keep the speeds around 70. However that gap will be smaller and smaller the harder you get on the gas. I have a 1.6L fusion ecoboost and with lead foot + driving 80mph on HW I get 25.4 combined. 182hp on tap, I think I'd get like 22 in an EB mustang. I get 19.5 in my V8 BMW (300hp)

I think where the EB truly shines is for someone who commutes and also wants to morph into a lead footer come the weekend or whenever.

Well for me, it will shine because I can get a awesome looking car that is actually a sports car with high HP and Torque AND it gets good MPG. I mean the V8 is awesome but for me, I wouldn't get my value out of it nor do I want to drop near 40K for a V8 that will get horrible MPG in the NOVA/DC commute.

 

[ropaul]

I'm really looking forward to the EB numbers and test drive experience, this might finally be the time I get myself into a Mustang. The only thing holding me back from really considering the V8 is the purchase price differential. The discounts for 2014 GTs are tempting but I want the updates the S550 brings.

I'm also considering the BMW 228i (maybe xDrive model once they're available later this year) which uses their 2.0L turbo 4 and seems to put out impressive numbers (0-60 in 5.4 sec, 24/36 mpg). Granted the 2 coupe is probably about 200-300 pounds lighter than the Mustang, but I'm really hoping that the Mustang EB falls in the same ballpark number-wise. Unfortunately it may require waiting 2-3 years until Ford's new automatic transmission is available to fully unlock the "true" potential of the EB...

 

[ARS]

Do you really think Ford is going to slack, falsely advertise this engine when this is the future, especially in Europe and the first time there which is big for them?

And the real world is the real world, You put a full spare and then a 300 lb driver who goes 80 all the time and yah, you are going to get shitty mileage in ANY car.

I think you are doubting the 2.3 way too much.

Well, they did the Cmax and got caught.:lol: They had to drop the rating 4 mpgs if memory serves. Dont think for a single second Ford Motor Co is made up of saints and wont try to pull a fast one now and then. Marketing and perception plays a big part of their gig be damned the consumer. Its all about the bottom line. Like I said before you wont see them advertise the Chinese made Mt82 by name and for good reason.

All I am saying is this. If a Ford NA engine is rated at 30 mpg and one of the turbocharged engines is rated at 30 mpg you are going to do better with the NA engine in the real world. Ford in my experience is just as good as anybody with the naturally aspirated stuff. Turbo charged not so much and its not just them either. Do some research. You will find what I am telling you is truthful. They simply have figured out how to run these engines through the epa test cycle and score well while having decent power numbers.

 

[ShoNuff]

I, too, am waiting for some numbers on Ecoboosts performance and MPG (as well as a test drive on both the v8 and eco). I can get a fully loaded Ecoboost premium for around 5k less than a not fully loaded GT Premium (to get the options I want vs. the options I really want - lets face it, none of the options are really a need...).

After reading this site, I am feeling fairly skeptical that the Eco is all that fuel efficient. Especially if there is a low RPM threshold for entering boost. I mostly want the v8 for the orchestral sound that accompanies its drive... either beast will leave my 170HP dodge avenger in the dust.

 

[Clink]

My co-worker received a payment from Hyundai for false advertising their MPG on her 2013 Elantra....2 different companies but just saying....

 

[marjen]

I am interested to see the real world MPG. I have a daily 90 mile commute (45 each way). I have 2013 Fusion Titanium with the 2.3 liter EB turbo. I only average around 20 mpg. I do a mix of city and hwy. So I am skeptical about what kind of numbers this more powerful EB 4 banger will do. I think they should have used a V6 EB instead, I also think they should have used that in the Fusion.

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