Ecoboost vs Ecoboost hpp

[MetricPaprika58]

Hey, I can either get a regular Ecoboost premium or Ecoboost premium with hpp. My brother has a 21 Ecoboost premium and the car is very smooth. I really like to drive it and it drives comfortably.

My question is does the hpp drive harsh or firm? It has bigger rear sway bars and different chassis tuning and heavy-duty front springs.

I just want to know if it’s going to be noticeably different when daily driving the car?

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[ice445]

Nope, it won't be noticeably harsher. I'd go with the HPP personally, it completes the car.

 

[KingKona]

Yes, especially if it has the EcoBoost handling package. That's the whole point to it.

IMO, since you're asking the question, the HPP isn't the car for you. Go for the regular EB.

 

[MetricPaprika58]

It's going to be the hpp package without the handling package

 

[Son of SVO]

No question here. Go with the HPP. Even without the handling pack you get the tuned for Mustang Focus RS engine, GT brakes and a good selection of GT pp1 parts. Oh, and HPP specific wheels and appearance parts.

 

[KingKona]

No question here. Go with the HPP. Even without the handling pack you get the tuned for Mustang Focus RS engine, GT brakes and a good selection of GT pp1 parts. Oh, and HPP specific wheels and appearance parts.

That's absolutely NOT what the OP is asking about. They're not interested in your opinion of the HPP based on what you want in a car.

The question was; "...does the hpp drive harsh or firm?"

The answer is yes. Yes it rides firm. And at times could be considered "harsh".

 

[Son of SVO]

That's absolutely NOT what the OP is asking about. They're not interested in your opinion of the HPP based on what you want in a car.

The question was; "...does the hpp drive harsh or firm?"

The answer is yes. Yes it rides firm. And at times could be considered "harsh".

YES, it does ride firmly. Apologies for my editorial content. As Mustang owners aren't we ALL just a little fond of our particular choices?

 

[steve0s550]

I Dow find the HPP AE at low rpm drone annoying may need to swap a standard exhaust and splice the quad tips in.

Maybe add in a resonator since it comes from factory without one. Or quite mode?

 

[steve0s550]

In quiet mode all the time. Will look into resonator. It's just low rpm when rolling. At a standstill it's fine.

Have sound deadening all over the truck pan as well. I think is coming in through the rear seat back

I don't notice any drone with my AE except in drag or track mode at low rpms. All the other modes seem fine and I'm even running a NX2 and 3" CVF catted DP. But yeah adding in a resonator would be way cheaper than new exhaust and splicing in your AE tips/valves.

 

[shogun32]

I just want to know if it’s going to be noticeably different when daily driving the car?

no difference worth noting. The HPP comes with the same 'FP street' dampers that come on the GT/PP1. It's a touch more damping but nothing remotely coming close to NVH increase. The suspension in both trims is quite lacking so if you want good handling you'll be swapping at least dampers out with eg. Bilstein to get proper damping behavior.

I Dow find the HPP AE at low rpm drone annoying may need to swap a standard exhaust and splice the quad tips in.

spin the motor over 2000 or better yet 2500 all the time. Since I can't hear the exhaust at all on my car (no Active Exhaust) so I'm putting in a Y pipe and GT 4-output exhaust.

 

[BlueHPP]

As the owner of a 2020 HPP/HP car I have tried to find the differences between the base and HPP ecoboosts. Here is what I have found

	1FA6P8TH8L5188091	1FA6P8TD8L5143XXX	Handling package	Source
	Regular	HPP
Engine	LR3E- 6007-CA	LR3E- 6007-AA		Ford Service CD
Cylinder head	EJ7Z-6049A	says high strength no part # diff		Tech Specs
Head Gasket	EJ7Z-6051-C	EJ7Z-6051-E		Online part #s
Block	LR3Z-6010A	High tensile liners-no part # diff		Tech specs /Hot Rod
Piston Rings		Improved- no part # difference		Tech Specs ?Hot Rod
Turbocharger	57 or 60 mm 18 psi	63 mm impeller/ 22 lbs boost
springs		?	Stiffer front	Ford Engr video
Front sway bar/Rear bar	32 mm front/20 rear	32 mmm front X 21.7 mm rear	33.3 mm Front/ 24 mm rear	Tech specs
Front brakes	320 X 30 vented single piston	352 mm X 32 vented 4 piston caliper	Improved pads	Tech specs
Rear Brakes	320 X30 solid single piston	330 X 25 vented single piston		Tech specs
active exhaust	Optional	Std	Std	Tech specs
Wheels	18 X 8/ 19 x 8.5	19 x 9.0	19 X 9.5	Tech specs
radiator	RAD 129	Larger RAD 205 20% more capacity		Tech specs/ Mishimoto
ECM
Differential	3.31 ltd slip	3.55 ltd slip	3.55 Torsen	Tech specs
Shock absorbers			Magnaride electronic	Tech specs
Weight	90 lbs lighter-3542	3632	3632	Tech specs

Things to remember:
Tech specs are not always right.
After April 2021 the Handling package cars got the six piston Brembo brakes with 15 inch rotors.
If there is really a difference what is the part number for the different part? I cannot find a different part number for the head or block.
Overall I really like the car for the value. I have checked on the weight difference between a GT and the HPP. Base GT is only 73 pounds heavier but the Bullitt is 218 pounds heavier than a 6MT HPP/HP car. So a PP2 car I would expect to be about 170 with all of the upgraded parts.

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