Ecoboost mod list

[SLVRBACK]

It'll be interesting to see how much is on the table for the EB engine as far as just a flash goes.

VW's new 2.0 TSI apparently left ~80whp on the table with a stage 1 flash. Good for 110mph trap speeds and almost 12s in a GTI.

http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_gen3_mqb.html

Probably quite a bit. The Focus ST makes 250fwhp and 370fwtq after intake/IC/exhaust/tune.

I wouldnt be surprised that the ecoboost with bolt ons could make more torque to the wheels than a stock gt.

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[Ryudo83]

Probably quite a bit. The Focus ST makes 250fwhp and 370fwtq after intake/IC/exhaust/tune.

I wouldnt be surprised that the ecoboost with bolt ons could make more torque to the wheels than a stock gt.

^they call that beast mode

 

[Suddueth13]

I could see the hp gains being minimal on the stock turbo, just like the STs. But I can see massive torque gains for sure.

 

[Voodoo1796]

I said basically, and did not mean literally, as I do not know the specifics about how it works. All I do know is that you can run a 100 octane tune using it with 93, with a properly set up water/methanol kit. So running it with 87 would be like running 93 except keeping your intake valves cleaner. It will not get rid of all the potential carbon build up, but it will reduce it for sure.

The problem with meth injection is it is acting as a band aid for a bigger issue. I'm sure it wont hurt with keeping the intake side a bit cleaner, but it won't be as effective as a proper media blasting. In the N54 community, meth was popular till they figured out ethanol blend tunes, and there just isn't a good substitute for cleaning out the valves compares to walnut blasting. I'd take the money you'd spend on a proper meth set up and just set it aside for maintenance funds.

Power wise?

3" Turboback
4" Intake
FMIC with 2.5" piping and Tial Q BOV
gtx3076r with a .84 a/r housing and tial 44mm EWG.

If it were me....

Then the usual cosmetics, wheel & tires and suspension.

This, pretty much. Even though I so very much desire a 5.0, if I buy new it will most likely end up being an Ecoboost. Basic bolt ons, FMIC, and tuning should yeild some decent results. I'm hoping that the final engine bay set up is something like the 4 banger Genesis coupe with the turbo just hanging out there. Although I'd rather have a 35r just to say its a 35r, I bet the 30 would do just fine.

I'm more concerned about what the internals ont he motor can handle and if there are going to be any fueling hook ups. I think I saw somewhere that Cobb as an AP for the Focus ST...I wonder if they will get into the turbo Mustang game.

 

[Ryudo83]

I'm more concerned about what the internals ont he motor can handle and if there are going to be any fueling hook ups. I think I saw somewhere that Cobb as an AP for the Focus ST...I wonder if they will get into the turbo Mustang game.

I cant imagine them not doing an AP for the Mustang. Already have one for the Focus and Fiesta and the Mustang is an even larger market. It would be like them having an AP for an STI but not a WRX or Legacy.

 

[Voodoo1796]

I cant imagine them not doing an AP for the Mustang. Already have one for the Focus and Fiesta and the Mustang is an even larger market. It would be like them having an AP for an STI but not a WRX or Legacy.

Fingers crossed. I had the AP for my Speed3, and an AP for my Z befopre they dropped support on it. I have a few friends with 335is running them as well, and a close friend had his GTR (before he sold it) on one. I think they really have locked down the game with the AP.

 

[petraman]

Hey Voodoo... since you had two cars with APs, were you able to use the same AP with both cars? I just got an AP3 and I'd rather not try to trade it in...

 

[Voodoo1796]

Hey Voodoo... since you had two cars with APs, were you able to use the same AP with both cars? I just got an AP3 and I'd rather not try to trade it in...

Nope, and I wish I could have. The APs are for specific cars, or at least were when I had them. I wish they weren't, I would have just picked up a used one for an older Scooby for cheap, and then when I sold the Z sold it to some GTR guy for $100 less than new.

If it was cross platform, you'd have all the GTR and Porsche guys buying the $500 AP they have for the Fusion or Ralliart.

 

[petraman]

Meh, I figured... Oh well, I won't have to worry about it until next summer anyways, so at least I can get another year out of it.

 

[Ryudo83]

Hey Voodoo... since you had two cars with APs, were you able to use the same AP with both cars? I just got an AP3 and I'd rather not try to trade it in...

you can unmarry it from one car to another but its vehicle/platform specific. so you couldnt move it from say a WRX to a Focus

 

[Don's Stang]

Little experience with the focus st, and think you will get similar results on the 2.3EB

I have a FMIC, intake, Catback, and a tune, no downpipe, don't think a down pipe is needed
I am not going to say these mods have given me more HP or torque, since I didn't do a before and after dyno. Though I can say the throttle response is so much better, the turbo spools up faster, low to mid range power is very much improved.

The real difference, is I don't have to downshift as much as I did when stock. When it was in stock trim, often I would have to downshift, but now just give it a little gas, and it just takes off. It was a little sluggish around 60mph in 6th gear, now with the mods that's all gone.

So if the new EB responds to a few mods the way the ST's EB does, you all will see a great improvement on the way the car drives with a few mods.

I have the Cob AP for my focus st, the cob tunes kinda suck, but the tune I got from Randy just before he moved over to Mountune USA, is amazing. So if Mountune USA comes out with tunes for the new Mustang EB motor I bet they will be just as good

I would give the different companies who will be tuning the 2.3 EB a little time to learn this new motor, develop some tunes for it, and then go for it. I don't think I would want to be the guinea pig for the tunes. I did that back in 2001 on my Lightning, and have learned to wait a little till the tuners figure out any issues that might pop up

 

[Dirtleg]

Glowshift stickers and a faux touring car wing. And new AutoZone fart can mufflers I'll have installed at Meineke.



Edit. Sorry for the trolling. Couldn't help myself.

 

[Suddueth13]

The downpipe on FWD turbo cars is almost always the biggest restriction in the exhaust system. The aftermarket downpipe will yield the biggest gains vs the rest of the system.

I don't believe the downpipe on the Mustang is going to be any real restriction until you start getting into big turbos. I do agree though that with the stock turbo, it will likely act like the ST cars, not significant peak power gains but huge torque improvements down low and more power under the curve.

 

[stilesg57]

The downpipe on FWD turbo cars is almost always the biggest restriction in the exhaust system. The aftermarket downpipe will yield the biggest gains vs the rest of the system.

I don't believe the downpipe on the Mustang is going to be any real restriction until you start getting into big turbos. I do agree though that with the stock turbo, it will likely act like the ST cars, not significant peak power gains but huge torque improvements down low and more power under the curve.

I hate to keep pointing this out, but this is all conjecture -- it depends on the pipe design as much as the engine bay packing. The longitudinally-mounted motor in the WRX gets HUGE gains from a downpipe in power, torque, and spool, not because any tight FWD-style packaging forced bad kinks into the exhaust routing off the turbo or anything but because the factory dp design sucked, especially regarding the wastegate area.

I think everyone just hates admitting that in the complete information vacuum we're in with these cars, there is just as much chance that a turboback exhaust and a tune will yield 20whp/30wtq as there is that it will net you 60whp/80wtq (which is similar to the gain my old '02 2L WRX saw). Turbos almost always show decent gains with easy mods, but whether we have a BPU monster on our hands or not is going to take several months to discern. And I'm as frustrated as anyone about that ;)

 

[DivineStrike]

The downpipe on FWD turbo cars is almost always the biggest restriction in the exhaust system. The aftermarket downpipe will yield the biggest gains vs the rest of the system.

I don't believe the downpipe on the Mustang is going to be any real restriction until you start getting into big turbos. I do agree though that with the stock turbo, it will likely act like the ST cars, not significant peak power gains but huge torque improvements down low and more power under the curve.

I hate to keep pointing this out, but this is all conjecture -- it depends on the pipe design as much as the engine bay packing. The longitudinally-mounted motor in the WRX gets HUGE gains from a downpipe in power, torque, and spool, not because any tight FWD-style packaging forced bad kinks into the exhaust routing off the turbo or anything but because the factory dp design sucked, especially regarding the wastegate area.

I think everyone just hates admitting that in the complete information vacuum we're in with these cars, there is just as much chance that a turboback exhaust and a tune will yield 20whp/30wtq as there is that it will net you 60whp/80wtq (which is similar to the gain my old '02 2L WRX saw). Turbos almost always show decent gains with easy mods, but whether we have a BPU monster on our hands or not is going to take several months to discern. And I'm as frustrated as anyone about that ;)

Also, aftermarket downpipe or catless DP will make it sound so much better. I'm not going to lie, my little 2.0 sounds mean and amazing. Has a very muscular tone for a 2.0. I have no complaints of how mine sounds. Most of the time i get people asking me if mines an r32, alongside just getting regular compliments lol. I expect much the same out of the 2.3

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