Cold air intakes

[AustinLenart23]

Looking to purchase a new cold air intake system and am debating between a few systems due to price and performance. My first option is the air raid intake junior kit(air raid intake tube with drop in filter) which is around $250. Then the jlt CAI with the closed lid $350. And finally a Roush cai $450. Not planning to tune the car so I’m aware I won’t see any real noticable gains in any of these options. Mainly looking to get more turbo noise and improve the flow of the system plus better MPG. I’m leaning towards rhe JLT the most just because it’s in the middle and a closed box cai that’s not breaking the bank as much as rhe roush. Any thoughts or opinions would be helpful. Thanks

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[Cordero1]

If you want noise, the Pmas fenderwell one is what to go for. But you'd need a tune for that one.

 

[NightmareMoon]

MPG won’t increase, so you can put that aside. Noise can increase, so that may make you happy.

Generall ALL of the open air intakes are absolutely not bringing in any more “cold” air, in fact as a rule they bring in more HOT air because the engine bay is warmer than the outside air and the closed factory box and factory air supply from the grill is about as good as it gets at sucking in only outside air. This is a pretty big downside to the aftermarket CAIs. Cold air intake is a very old term that does not apply at all to what you might put in your engine bay on a mustang.

With a tune, you can recover some of that loss from heat and gain a bit at speed by flowing better at higher RPM with a well designed intake like the PMAS (w/ tune) except the factory 18+ intakes leave very little room for improvement, they flow great and bring in cold outside air.

So do it for the noise if you like (its a pretty good reason) but lets have out eyes fully open about the pros and cons.

 

[NGOT8R]

Try a drop in K&N filter first to see if it helps you achieve the increased turbo noise. From there, you can modify the airbox lid by drilling holes or carefully cutting out a section to serve as a port to let even more turbo noise out.

 

[jimcardin7]

Try looking at cold air intakes from K&N. I tried it and it feels fine. However, there is no increase in engine performance, but the increase in turbo noise may please you. K&N is considered one of the brands with best cold air intakes

 

[MadRabbit]

These guys tested a few on the dyno and got pretty good results even without a tune. Looks like the highly cheered Airaid + K&N setup actually loses both HP and Torque with Roush bringing the highest numbers. Pay to play rule I suppose.

 

[Boosted Pony]

Roush works with Ford and has access to Ford data to design their performance parts which is why the Roush Cold Air Intake makes gains over stock. Roush smoothed out the air flow. People think a cold air intake will give them big gains in power but they don't, what they can do is make the air flow more efficiently over stock which will result in a small horse power and torque increase, every little bit adds up, as you install a better intercooler the more efficient air flow will help it work better.

Race teams will spend a million dollars to gain 1 or 2 horse power. The Roush Cold Air Intake system is well designed and out preforms the stock air box and tube.

 

[Joe Gonsalves]

Don't waste your money, for what little gains you get you won't feel it. The factory air box is already a cold air intake. Look at it, it's sealed preventing hot engine compartment air from getting in and the air inlet is coming from the front grill where the cold air is. You can still get a tune with the factory air box and see nearly the same gains. The aftermarket wants to sell you a CAI with a tuner to maximize profit for them nothing more. The only way to flow more air is a bigger throttle body and then a CAI makes more sense.

 

[Boosted Pony]

The Roush Cold Air Intake smooths out the air flow, it also shows a gain on the Dyno, race teams will spend a million dollars to get 1 or 2 horse power. The factory intake is designed to strictly meet EPA rules so there is a small gain to be had by a properly designed cold air intake like the Roush design. I have the Roush Cold Air Intake and highly recommend it. Stock is never the best option.

 

[Joe Gonsalves]

Boosted Pony, you yourself said it's a small gain, as I also stated. Now can anyone really feel a small gain in the seat of your pants? 5 to 10HP gain is nothing and it comes at the top of the RPM range where no one drives on the street. Now tuning can get you some low end torque but again only slight improvement that you may or may not feel. Low end torque is more of a function of intake runner length. If you are increasing the boost then yes a CAI will be needed. But my point is, the money spent on a CAI only, is not worth it. You need more extensive changes for that to provide benefit.

 

[Boosted Pony]

Don't take it from me take it from Gale Banks, stock intake systems $uck.

Maybe Gale can explain it better about stock intakes

 

[tj@steeda]

Here is the Steeda EcoBoost CAI on the dyne:

 

[Joe Gonsalves]

Here is the Steeda EcoBoost CAI on the dyne:

Wow, so you keep missing the point. You can point to all the youtube videos you want, all sponsored by people looking to sell cold air intakes. For the last time the point is return on investment. Spending $300 on CAI and $500 on tuner and tune for a total of $800 just to gain 5 to 10hp is money poorly spent. Take that same money and spend it on rear gear which will get you so much more acceleration and fun than the 5hp gain you won't feel. Choose the right gear and you could see a 30% increase in torque and that you surely will feel.

 

[tj@steeda]

No. Not missing any points, just opinions from others to tell the OP what he should spend his money on and their suggestions.

If the OP is interested in a CAI - and he is asking for opinions on potential solutions - then as a forum, no issue in providing that support.

Have a wonderful weekend.

 

[Boosted Pony]

Wow, so you keep missing the point. You can point to all the youtube videos you want, all sponsored by people looking to sell cold air intakes. For the last time the point is return on investment. Spending $300 on CAI and $500 on tuner and tune for a total of $800 just to gain 5 to 10hp is money poorly spent. Take that same money and spend it on rear gear which will get you so much more acceleration and fun than the 5hp gain you won't feel. Choose the right gear and you could see a 30% increase in torque and that you surely will feel.

Speed costs money, money buys speed, not sure why you think Gale Banks does not know what he is talking about, or you think the people at Steeda don't know anything but there are some good companies out there that work to give the consumer quality products.

Banks is one, Steeda is another, Roush Industries, add Borla to the list and I could go on and on but just because you don't think something is worth while and you refuse to spend the money on it does not mean everyone else should avoid quality products from first rate companies.

I have Steeda suspension pieces on my Mustang, I have a Roush Cold Air Intake, a COBB Access Port with stage 2 tune, Borla cat back active exhaust, Turbosmart dual port blow off valve among other parts from other companies that support the Mustang.

Race teams will spend a million dollars just to find 1 or 2 horse power and the little bit of gain you say we are wasting our money on may be the difference between us advancing to the next round and you being put on the trailer.

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