Changing oem lug nuts to gorillas lug nuts

[Konamoth]

Who care's whether we know or not?

All it matters is that's what Ford recommends. You asked why 150 and we told you why.

If someone says why do you put gasoline in the vehicle, you tell them because the manufacturer or the vehicle designed it for gasoline and put it in the manual that the vehicle runs on gasoline. Same concept here. You asked why and we told you because the manufacturer designed it this way and put it in the manual.

If you want to know the physics behind that very specific number, go read a book. Hint it has something to do with the clamping force required to hold the wheels on the 14mm stud.



One more hint. It has absolutely nothing to do with the lug nut. It's all in the stud. Ford wanted a stronger stud, increased its diameter which then required more torque on the nut. So if anything, Ford spent more money on it when they could've given us a cheaper to produce 12mm stud like on 11-14s.

You could design the absolute BEST lug nut in the world with the most exotic materials. If you wanted to run it on the Mustang, it would still take 150ftlbs. At the same time, you can make the cheapest lug nut out of plastic and it would still require 150ftlbs. It might break before getting to that point, but it would still require 150ftlbs to provide the same clamping force.

Also lug nuts don't "lock", they hold the wheel on by providing clamping force between itself and the hubs.

Appreciate the further edit explaining in detail.

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[OGsmakDadE]

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.

wow, I really don’t know what to respond to this…. I will however as a blue collar worker tell you that you should check your attitude a bit. I know guys that turn wrenches for a living that could likely buy and sell you many times over…
We are no better than the people we pay to do menial tasks for us, never should they be looked down upon. I call everyone ma’am or sir, wether younger or older than I. I pride myself on treating everyone with respect until they do something to lose it. If you go around thinking you’re above certain people, someday someone is sure to ground you.

 

[Konamoth]

wow, I really don’t know what to respond to this…. I will however as a blue collar worker tell you that you should check your attitude a bit. I know guys that turn wrenches for a living that could likely buy and sell you many times over…
We are no better than the people we pay to do menial tasks for us, never should they be looked down upon. I call everyone ma’am or sir, wether younger or older than I. I pride myself on treating everyone with respect until they do something to lose it. If you go around thinking you’re above certain people, someday someone is sure to ground you.

As above. I'm about as white collar as you can get, but, that don't put me anywhere special.

If nothing else, they're the folks wrenching on your car for you. Maybe don't piss them off.

 

[Rapid Red]

oneheadlite said:

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.
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wow, I really don’t know what to respond to this…. I will however as a blue collar worker tell you that you should check your attitude a bit. I know guys that turn wrenches for a living that could likely buy and sell you many times over…
We are no better than the people we pay to do menial tasks for us, never should they be looked down upon. I call everyone ma’am or sir, wether younger or older than I. I pride myself on treating everyone with respect until they do something to lose it. If you go around thinking you’re above certain people, someday someone is sure to ground you.

Yes the little man thinks he's some kind of a big shot for sure.

Notice the screen name .......... "oneheadlite "

how about "halfwitt" <think about it .........

One fry short of a happy meal

 

[tnk_2]

I did mine this way, you'll be fine. Make sure to go in a star pattern to keep it on straight, of course. I'd also recommend torquing each lug to 150 lb-ft spec before moving to the next to be extra safe. Bit tedious, but you'd rather not wind up racing your own wheels.

That’s exactly what I am going to do. Thanks

 

[WD Pro]

If I could pick three (car related) topics that always get a bit shitty on here it would be A) Manual v auto, B) gas grade and C) lug nuts ...

WD

 

[EFI]

If I could pick three (car related) topics that always get a bit shitty on here it would be A) Manual v auto, B) gas grade and C) lug nuts ...

WD

Don't forget the 5w20 vs 5w30/50 debate.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Um yea, so . . . how does a simple lug nut question turn into a white collar vs blue collar fret....

 

[wadewolf76]

....in other words, you don't know either.

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.

If I've ever had a vehicle that had wheel lugs torqued to those specs, I
did not know it.

The smart ass replies aren't necessary.
All anyone had to do is type; "they're torqued to that value to keep
the lug nuts from coming off because Ford is too cheap to design
a lug nut that locks and holds after tightening."

Damn them menial workers.

 

[Rapid Red]

Um yea, so . . . how does a simple lug nut question turn into a white collar vs blue collar fret....

That happens @ post 11, the comment was uncalled for. There are a whole lot of ass hats, both white collar & blue collar.

Frankly I don't see a dividing line between the 2, accept for the attitude. Created and demonstrated post 11 .

 

[kz]

....forgive my ignorance, but

WHY 150 ft lbs torque on lug nuts??????

Because you want to achieve certain clamp (which is always primary focus of any bolted joint) to hold the wheel to the hub. Since you can't measure clamp without strain gages, you control it through torque. This is the torque that is required to achieve the clamp that designers want (that will handle all the wheel loads without slipping/separation) whatever on these sized bolts (which are larger diameter than what you see on average car out there).
It's not a rocket science.

 

[Ewheels]

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.

Wow. Just wow. This crap pisses me off.
You talk down about manual laborers but you're incapable of Googling the science behind clamping forces?

I hope you get a flat tire somewhere outside of cell service so you're forced to do some "menial" work.

For what it's worth, I've met numerous successful business men and executives at race tracks and all them change their own wheels.

 

[tosha]

The turd is just a troll, don't feed him. Pissing normal people off is what they enjoy.

 

[oneheadlite]

Wow. Just wow. This crap pisses me off.
You talk down about manual laborers but you're incapable of Googling the science behind clamping forces?

I hope you get a flat tire somewhere outside of cell service so you're forced to do some "menial" work.

For what it's worth, I've met numerous successful business men and executives at race tracks and all them change their own wheels.

...tough toenails.

Don't read my replies if you are sensitive..............

 

[oneheadlite]

...it's funny.
iceage started a thread about someone stealing his Charger
after he traded it in.
Several guys are giving him grief because he is trying to help the dealer
find the car. They are saying; it's not your problem.

Why are none of you attacking those guys?..............

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