Changing oem lug nuts to gorillas lug nuts

[tnk_2]

I got the gorillas lug nuts from cjpony and wondering what the easiest way to change the lug nuts over
I am thinking just take one lug nut off and put the gorillas lug nut back one at a time , so I don’t have to jack the car up should work right?

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[Mike Pfeifer]

That will work just fine.

 

[raptor17GT]

will be doing this hopefully at the weekend when I obtain a torque wrench. 150 lb/ftyeah ? Jezo

 

[NightmareMoon]

will be doing this hopefully at the weekend when I obtain a torque wrench. 150 lb/ftyeah ? Jezo

One at a time would be fine, and yes, 150 ft lbs.

 

[oneheadlite]

....forgive my ignorance, but

WHY 150 ft lbs torque on lug nuts??????

 

[Rapid Red]

 

[EFI]

....forgive my ignorance, but

WHY 150 ft lbs torque on lug nuts??????

Because that's what it says in the manual for the car?

What do you torque your lugs to? Any random number on the dial and call it a day?

 

[dpAtlanta]

Removing them however... It takes a brave man to grab hold of gorilla nuts and twist them until they come off... that is going to be one PISSED OFF gorilla.....!!!!!

 

[oneheadlite]

Because that's what it says in the manual for the car?

What do you torque your lugs to? Any random number on the dial and call it a day?

....WOW!!!
What a clever answer!!
I take it you don't know either??

Besides, it was just a question.............sorry.........

 

[raptor17GT]

....WOW!!!
What a clever answer!!
I take it you don't know either??

Besides, it was just a question.............sorry.........

it is a very clever answer, quoting the handbook to clear any confusion and confirm the source of the information. Obv poster knew where to look to get answer and from the many threads (sorry) about this question the 150 figure is a result of the grade and the diameter of the fixings used ergo the 150 figure.

 

[oneheadlite]

it is a very clever answer, quoting the handbook to clear any confusion and confirm the source of the information. Obv poster knew where to look to get answer and from the many threads (sorry) about this question the 150 figure is a result of the grade and the diameter of the fixings used ergo the 150 figure.

....in other words, you don't know either.

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.

If I've ever had a vehicle that had wheel lugs torqued to those specs, I
did not know it.

The smart ass replies aren't necessary.
All anyone had to do is type; "they're torqued to that value to keep
the lug nuts from coming off because Ford is too cheap to design
a lug nut that locks and holds after tightening."

 

[Konamoth]

....in other words, you don't know either.

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.

If I've ever had a vehicle that had wheel lugs torqued to those specs, I
did not know it.

The smart ass replies aren't necessary.
All anyone had to do is type; "they're torqued to that value to keep
the lug nuts from coming off because Ford is too cheap to design
a lug nut that locks and holds after tightening."

Easy man. He's just answering you.

As above: they're torqued that way because, well, Ford said so. And at 430+ lb-ft, that figure's kind of needed...

This transcends whatever lugs Ford uses, too. Thus the thread. It applies to locking lugs, gorilla lugs, low profiles, wheel spacers, you name it—because that's what's needed to keep the wheels on the car. Assuming you're using the stock wheels and lugs, Ford did a pretty good job quoting that number.

 

[Konamoth]

I got the gorillas lug nuts from cjpony and wondering what the easiest way to change the lug nuts over
I am thinking just take one lug nut off and put the gorillas lug nut back one at a time , so I don’t have to jack the car up should work right?

I did mine this way, you'll be fine. Make sure to go in a star pattern to keep it on straight, of course. I'd also recommend torquing each lug to 150 lb-ft spec before moving to the next to be extra safe. Bit tedious, but you'd rather not wind up racing your own wheels.

 

[raptor17GT]

....in other words, you don't know either.

I don't change wheels or have them off to torque them back down. That
job is for the tire or brake shop menial workers to do.

If I've ever had a vehicle that had wheel lugs torqued to those specs, I
did not know it.

The smart ass replies aren't necessary.
All anyone had to do is type; "they're torqued to that value to keep
the lug nuts from coming off because Ford is too cheap to design
a lug nut that locks and holds after tightening."

I am changing the wheel nuts because indeed Ford cheapass OEM nuts cause issues and thats a problem. So me asking torque value is a sensible thing before i do the change, well I thought so. Especially since I'll actually have to go buy a torque wrench that reads that high, though they will be in Nm since dammit we're metric over here. For some things, its very confusing really!

As for the torque value required, its std for an M14 1.5 grade 10.9 so actually not Ford being tight

https://www.fastenermart.com/files/metric_tighten_torques.pdf
https://electronicfilters.tpub.com/TM-10-4330-237-13P/css/TM-10-4330-237-13P_105.htm

I'm sorry you feel the way you do, hope you enjoy driving your car.

 

[EFI]

....in other words, you don't know either.

Who care's whether we know or not?

All it matters is that's what Ford recommends. You asked why 150 and we told you why.

If someone says why do you put gasoline in the vehicle, you tell them because the manufacturer or the vehicle designed it for gasoline and put it in the manual that the vehicle runs on gasoline. Same concept here. You asked why and we told you because the manufacturer designed it this way and put it in the manual.

If you want to know the physics behind that very specific number, go read a book. Hint it has something to do with the clamping force required to hold the wheels on the 14mm stud.

"they're torqued to that value to keep
the lug nuts from coming off because Ford is too cheap to design
a lug nut that locks and holds after tightening."

One more hint. It has absolutely nothing to do with the lug nut. It's all in the stud. Ford wanted a stronger stud, increased its diameter which then required more torque on the nut. So if anything, Ford spent more money on it when they could've given us a cheaper to produce 12mm stud like on 11-14s.

You could design the absolute BEST lug nut in the world with the most exotic materials. If you wanted to run it on the Mustang, it would still take 150ftlbs. At the same time, you can make the cheapest lug nut out of plastic and it would still require 150ftlbs. It might break before getting to that point, but it would still require 150ftlbs to provide the same clamping force.

Also lug nuts don't "lock", they hold the wheel on by providing clamping force between itself and the hubs.

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