7000 Miles and 1st Problem :-( !!

[kwpony]

I'm all for pursuing your dreams, but at some point you need to wake up and realize it's not going to happen and you need to get a real job. Something like 1 in 50,000 actually make a living out of it, and even less make a good living at it. It's like all these high school kids wanting to make it in the NFL, there are a few dozen kids coming out of school every year from every high school in this country and maybe 15% go on to play college ball. Out of that maybe 2 or 3% actually make it to the NFL and half of those will never make it thru their first training camp and actually suit up for a regular season game, let alone actually play in that game.

EDIT- I just looked it up and out of these thousands of kids coming out of their local high school football program hoping for a chance in the NFL, if they do make the team and stay on the roster for the first regular season game, the average lifespan of an NFL career is 3.3 years.

As I understand it some of the fault goes to these liberal teachers telling kids to follow their dreams and don't let anyone tell you that you can't do it.

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[2016S550]

Skewed in what way, exactly? Without even getting into the inability to accurately measure the number of illegal border crossings, let's take your "millions" estimate to heart. They're not driving up the unemployment rate, as they can't collect unemployment, and at most, the only thing they're skewing is the total labor force participation rate upward by having jobs. That means they're paying income taxes. But, surely they're not taking jobs from the younger generations because, you mentioned earlier, "The thing is simple low skilled retail locations and burger joints cannot give a job away..." So, what are the "undocumented 'work force' age folks" that are "just walking across our southern border" skewing?

Woooooooo…..Well the usual wording in reference to immigration is 70% are “military aged men” so you can infer whatever you what but to me that spells able bodied. Maybe you should read my statement instead of making an assumption. My thought was that they are INCREASING the available work force therefore there should be less job vacancies. Where did I ever say anything about TAKING JOBS or DRIVING UP the unemployment rate? They are not paying taxes if they don’t have a SSN but there is plenty of non taxable work going on, just drive past any new construction site. And if you don’t think it’s in the millions then maybe you should pay more attention. My low skilled labor and burger joint comment was targeted twd lazy kids who are spoiled by their parents sitting home instead of being taught responsibilities and working. EDIT……………chill. The fact that we have no mechanism to measure the immigration should spark some concern but everyone keeps looking the other way.

 

[JetGray_Mach1]

Yep that's what I hear. I will inspect mine every time I change oil.

 

[XFactor7889]

Woooooooo…..Well the usual wording in reference to immigration is 70% are “military aged men” so you can infer whatever you what but to me that spells able bodied. Maybe you should read my statement instead of making an assumption. My thought was that they are INCREASING the available work force therefore there should be less job vacancies. Where did I ever say anything about TAKING JOBS or DRIVING UP the unemployment rate? They are not paying taxes if they don’t have a SSN but there is plenty of non taxable work going on, just drive past any new construction site. And if you don’t think it’s in the millions then maybe you should pay more attention. My low skilled labor and burger joint comment was targeted twd lazy kids who are spoiled by their parents sitting home instead of being taught responsibilities and working. EDIT……………chill. The fact that we have no mechanism to measure the immigration should spark some concern but everyone keeps looking the other way.

First, I am chill. I most certainly did read your statement. The inferences made were based on a better understanding of the labor force participation rate than it appears you have. That's not me being rude, just an observation made based on your response. The point you are making is exactly the point I was actually suggesting is invalid. Because they are illegal immigrants, they do not increase the official count of the labor force; they can't. The same reason they can't count toward the unemployment rate. However, if they have jobs here, they ARE inherently included in the count of jobs held. Thus, they are increasing the labor force participation rate because they count toward jobs held, but not toward the total labor force available. I could have been more explicit in my prior response to ensure no ill assumptions were being made; I apologize for not being clearer.

Next, they are, in fact, paying taxes as those are being collected from their paychecks prior to their receipt of payment, just like those of us here working legally. If they are not, the problem in this case is the employers that are committing fraud, NOT the illegal immigrants that are working. (Don't misconstrue this as me condoning illegal immigration.)

Also, implying that "any new construction site" is evidence of illegal immigrants is bigoted at worst and ignorant at best. Sure, there may be a large Hispanic community within construction, but let's not assume they're all here illegally. And again, if they are, remember that their employers generally have a lot to do with that.

And finally, if you take away nothing else from this, understand that the labor force participation rate closing in on where it was 4 years ago is exactly why the argument you were trying to make doesn't make sense. With unemployment low and labor force participation rising, generally speaking, it would suggest that the overall population available to work is declining OR jobs available are increasing. In this case, with unemployment at about the same levels now as it was pre-pandemic, combined with labor force participation slightly below, we should actually be expecting more job vacancies today than we are. Nominally, yes, job vacancies are higher, but they are not as much as higher as the rates would imply they should be if there were an actual problem of people not wanting to work.

 

[2016S550]

So if I personally know for a fact that builders in 100+ home communities hire undocumented cheap labor so they can avoid workers comp payments and providing benefits that makes me a bigot. wow. jus fkn wow. Welcome to my ignore list HIGHROAD time. You need to get out more and stop watching CNN. You are obviously one of those persons that thinks they are the smartest person in the room. Get out and visit some construction sites and actually ask them if you think i’m a bigot. What an idiot.

 

[XFactor7889]

OP, I'm sorry to have hijacked your thread with this (what I thought was) discussion. I'm not entirely sure how I offended anyone, but it's clear that I did.

Since I'm apparently on someone's ignore list for the first time that I'm aware of, I imagine there's very little I can do to better understand what happened with the individual I was debating with. It seemed to escalate very quickly, despite my best efforts. That said, for the others that I'm sure were following along with their popcorn, could anyone provide me with some feedback? I would certainly like to avoid this in the future, and your insight as to where I went wrong is much appreciated.

 

[Oakley]

The pandemic has a lot to do with it. Every corner of the workforce has been affected, from nurses and doctors in hospitals, to burger flippers at the local McNasty's, and technicians in the service dept in every dealership out there. I used to blame it on the free money the gov't was handing out but that stopped over a year ago. I can't explain why the workforce never came back in full force but they didn't and I don't think they ever will. This is our world now.

Also, ford has not fully recovered from the chip shortage and supply chain issues, it took nine months to get my second row heated seats in my explorer fixed.

this is horseshit.

 

[TEAsGrabber]

There's no point in taking it to a Mercedes dealership if you intend on having it warrantied. Otherwise, just fix it yourself. What codes specifically did the dealer pull and clear?

If it is a wheel bearing, you don't need specialty tools to replace it.

There were about 7 or 8 that cleared, but one hard code stayed. I didn't get the code, but the Service writer said "ABS Control Module Communication Failure....

 

[luca1290]

OP, I'm sorry to have hijacked your thread with this (what I thought was) discussion. I'm not entirely sure how I offended anyone, but it's clear that I did.

Since I'm apparently on someone's ignore list for the first time that I'm aware of, I imagine there's very little I can do to better understand what happened with the individual I was debating with. It seemed to escalate very quickly, despite my best efforts. That said, for the others that I'm sure were following along with their popcorn, could anyone provide me with some feedback? I would certainly like to avoid this in the future, and your insight as to where I went wrong is much appreciated.

Don't apologize. If somebody can't tolerate a discussion because can't fight your opinions anymore in a civilized manner it's not your fault.
Really, there's nothing wrong in what you said, it's just this "trigger warning" and "hypersensitivity" thing going on with the current times where everybody needs constant validation just to keep breathing.

 

[2016S550]

Don't apologize. If somebody can't tolerate a discussion because can't fight your opinions anymore in a civilized manner it's not your fault.
Really, there's nothing wrong in what you said, it's just this "trigger warning" and "hypersensitivity" thing going on with the current times where everybody needs constant validation just to keep breathing.

I’m not sure you are referencing me but making assumptions that I am a Bigot or Ignorant at best for something that I know is true is unacceptable and not civilized.

 

[2021 Mach 1]

What has changed fundamentally in our society that now it takes a month for the dealer to look at your car?

There is no more customer service. My father has a Taycan Turbo, the Porsche dealer service department does not return emails nor phone calls. If he needs service, then he just drives over unannounced. Great for $175k, right?

 

[XFactor7889]

Don't apologize. If somebody can't tolerate a discussion because can't fight your opinions anymore in a civilized manner it's not your fault.
Really, there's nothing wrong in what you said, it's just this "trigger warning" and "hypersensitivity" thing going on with the current times where everybody needs constant validation just to keep breathing.

I appreciate your feedback; thank you. Even so, I certainly don't want to offend anyone, especially when there's a disagreement. It's difficult enough for us all to take a step back and reflect on our own beliefs as it is. I know it only becomes more difficult when we start offending each other.

Given the response you've since received from that individual, I see my delivery, specifically certain word choices, could have been gentler. In the apparent frustration of the moment, it seems there has been an assumption of accusations on my end that weren't actually there. I only meant to point out the dangers of over-generalization; perhaps that is how I should have phrased it instead. I'll have to do a better job of being mindful of that in the future.

I am saying this for anyone else who may have been offended by what I said as well. Not simply the individual I was debating. I noticed multiple reactions to that person's comments throughout, while mine were noticeably absent of any. So, I'm guessing it's a safe bet I clearly ruffled many feathers. I have no problem speaking up when I disagree (that is obviously clear), but being offensive is never my goal. I am sorry for my poor delivery; I will aim for better going forward.

 

[MAGS1]

I did call a couple of other dealerships. The first one could get me in Oct 25th and the other one 15 miles away told me to bring the car in so they could scan codes and see what was going on. I took it to them and they scanned codes and erased. All but one hard code was erased and everything seemed back to normal. Told me to take it out and drive and see what happens. Before I hit 4th gear all the warnings were back etc. The code that's hard says ABS module communication failure. They were able to get me in on Oct 16th, so that's a lil better. I never thought about Merc dealers. I'll try them today! TY!!
On a side note I guess it was a sign...... I've been going back and fourth about buying an extended warranty. My 12 month date is Nov 3rd and I just saw Zack from Grainger post that ESP plans are likely going to increase Oct 2nd. Nothing will make you hate a car more than coming outta pocket for broke sh*t. I don't wanna hate this one!!! LMAO!

I’d consider the ESP if you’re planning on keeping the car a while. I did mine last week (one week beyond my 1 year of taking delivery) and the pricing was still quite good. Prices are set to increase on Monday. I did PremiumCare 7 yrs, 60k miles with the key and lighting packages added and a $200 deductible. Was $900 for reference. For the lighting package is worth it since the OEM headlights and taillights on these cars are crazy expensive

 

[MAGS1]

I appreciate your feedback; thank you. Even so, I certainly don't want to offend anyone, especially when there's a disagreement. It's difficult enough for us all to take a step back and reflect on our own beliefs as it is. I know it only becomes more difficult when we start offending each other.

Given the response you've since received from that individual, I see my delivery, specifically certain word choices, could have been gentler. In the apparent frustration of the moment, it seems there has been an assumption of accusations on my end that weren't actually there. I only meant to point out the dangers of over-generalization; perhaps that is how I should have phrased it instead. I'll have to do a better job of being mindful of that in the future.

I am saying this for anyone else who may have been offended by what I said as well. Not simply the individual I was debating. I noticed multiple reactions to that person's comments throughout, while mine were noticeably absent of any. So, I'm guessing it's a safe bet I clearly ruffled many feathers. I have no problem speaking up when I disagree (that is obviously clear), but being offensive is never my goal. I am sorry for my poor delivery; I will aim for better going forward.

Not to derail any further but I thought your comments were well thought out and were well presented. I just don’t like when threads devolve into political or societal discussions that have little or nothing to do with thr topic at hand. That’s how threads with good info and discussion get shut down. But personally I took no offense to anything you said. It’s just a discussion for a different type of forum (and not blaming you or anyone else in particular for the thread going sideways btw, it just tends to happen)

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