2028 Camaro 7th Gen is Coming

[EFI]

What is the failure mode within that engine ?

Valvetrain and oil control are 2 biggies with LS/LT engines on track. Don't ask how I know.

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[martinjlm]

The L87 6.2L is having all kinds of problems and GM has issued a massive recall on them. Is that the one you’re thinking of?

L87 (truck engines) and LT1 (Camaro C7 Corvette engines) are same general design and short block. After that there are significant differences. The L87 problems were never an issue with LT1.

 

[martinjlm]

No, this was actually back before I bought my Mustang. I was briefly considering a Camaro and had come across a bunch of stories of valves falling into the cylinder while running, with the expected carnage that would cause. I didn’t really dig too deep about it because I knew it wasn’t really what I wanted anyway. But it stuck in my brain anyway.

There were some issues with dropping valves. It was fairly low incident rate but of course it sucks hard if you are the one it happens to. I have a friend who had it happen to him twice. The first time while way the hell out in the middle of nowhere traveling back from Sturgis Camaro meet-up. Bad situation. But on the other hand, I can’t think of another incidence of this happening. Not to me nor any of the hundreds of Camaro owners I know personally, many of whom track their cars.

 

[Ewheels]

I haven't heard of the engine problems with Camaros but I do know a handful of people who's airbags went off while on track. No collisions, just aggressive in the corners and something in the car's software made it think it was in an accident.

I am very hopeful for the next Camaro. The ZLE was such an awesome car and Chevy seemed to do a decent job at keeping it a few hundred pounds lighter than the Mustang.

 

[HKusp]

You do realize that model year by model year the 6th Gen Camaro was actually lighter than Mustang, right?

I think the point is, these so called "pony cars" have become full blown Clydesdales in the weight department and it would be awesome if some direct competition to our beloved mustang were to come in somewhere several hundred pounds lighter while still offering V8 power.

 

[lo-fi]

I see no universe where someone produces a sub 3700 pound (and realistically 3800) V8 for a consumer. Higher trim levels will add more weight. A six cylinder M4 is 3800 pounds plus and cost far more than a base Mustang or base Camaro.

 

[9secondko]

I don’t know…. Wasn’t the last iteration discontinued because of poor sales ? What’s the difference now ?

The last generation looked fine and performed really well. But it was designed in a way that probably narrowed its audience down to almost all men whereas the Mustang has more of a crossover curb appeal.

Behind that, and even more importantly, it just felt off when you sat inside it at first. If you never has time in a. Camaro, but went to test drive one, you'd feel scared and intimidated by the hampered views out of the car. The car had a cool hot-rod, "chopped" look with slits for windows, but it inherently caused visibility issues. And this was probably the deal breaker for many buyers.

The car was fast, handled great, did everything you'd want a Mustang or Camaro to do - except it didn't feel safe to drive due to the visibility issues unless you gave it a chance and put time in it and got used to it. but most buyers won't ever get to that point. Lot's of people struggle when they feel claustrophobic and this car kinda puts off those vibes at first.

Now take those initial problems and combined it with the ugliest mistake of a facelift in history (2019) and you have no sales.

 

[9secondko]

I see no universe where someone produces a sub 3700 pound (and realistically 3800) V8 for a consumer. Higher trim levels will add more weight. A six cylinder M4 is 3800 pounds plus and cost far more than a base Mustang or base Camaro.

GM did it with the 6 Gen Camaro. Don't see why they can't be around that number again. Probably will be @ 50 lbs heavier due to new engine weight and safety reg updates. BMWs have pretty heavy suspensions. Especially the M cars.

 

[9secondko]

I think the point is, these so called "pony cars" have become full blown Clydesdales in the weight department and it would be awesome if some direct competition to our beloved mustang were to come in somewhere several hundred pounds lighter while still offering V8 power.

I don't see why not. Last Gen Camaro V8 was just under 3700 with minimal options. The new one could be around 3735. Makes no sense to not capitalize further on what has already worked for them.

 

[Hack]

I don’t know…. Wasn’t the last iteration discontinued because of poor sales ? What’s the difference now ?

If you ask me the biggest problem with the Camaro was that it was too performance oriented. Mustang - even PP1 models ride like a luxury car. My Camaro LT1 was comparable in suspension firmness with my Ford Performance track handling kit suspension on my 2017 Mustang.

I personally really liked the firm ride for street driving, but I see people on here complain that the Mustang is too firm. So I know that would turn off some buyers.

Also, I think some of the naming could be better. LT1 vs 1LT confusion means I got a great deal on a V8 pony car, but that isn't good for GM when they could have sold a lot of the less expensive V8 models if their customers realized the value.

There were some issues with dropping valves. It was fairly low incident rate but of course it sucks hard if you are the one it happens to. I have a friend who had it happen to him twice. The first time while way the hell out in the middle of nowhere traveling back from Sturgis Camaro meet-up. Bad situation. But on the other hand, I can’t think of another incidence of this happening. Not to me nor any of the hundreds of Camaro owners I know personally, many of whom track their cars.

I always thought the valve thing was way back with the LS7. I didn't think it was any of the recent stuff.

 

[gimmie11s]

Hopefully they can figure how to get that look without feeling like you're looking out of a bunker.

 

[detamble13]

I’ve been away from GM for a number of years now but I still have some “connect” points. Expect 6.7L V8. Expect Tremec 6MT. From people I know who have seen the clay models it is not based on Gen 1. There are 2dr and 4dr clays. Does NOT mean they will do both as multiple clay models to zero in on a final design is the norm. Could be either, could be both.

My own thinking is that since Cadillac and Buick will have 4dr sedans it leaves room for a coupe for Chevrolet.

Man that sounds good. After years of reading the Camaro could become an EV SUV this is welcome news. Now its a matter of what it looks like. It was probably time to move away from Gen 1 styling so I'm interested to see if this is a clean sheet design or say a modern interpretation of an IROC.

 

[klink]

Man that sounds good. After years of reading the Camaro could become an EV SUV this is welcome news. Now its a matter of what it looks like. It was probably time to move away from Gen 1 styling so I'm interested to see if this is a clean sheet design or say a modern interpretation of an IROC.

Hopefully, a generation two iteration, but I’m sure that is just wasteful thinking. I’m going to keep my hopes tempered.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

I’m very stoked to hear about a 7th gen Camaro being on Alpha II and RWD. I love my 6th gen ZL1 (2021) so I’m especially excited to hear what the next ZL1 becomes. I’d be very curious to see the new design inspired by the 3rd gen IROC-Z, given my first car was an 87 Z28. But a 1970 inspired rear end would be awesome.

I’m glad GM didn’t rush to jump on the Camaro EV or SUV bandwagon, that would have been a disaster, as muscle car owners don’t want EVs.

I hope they don’t glue an iPad to the dash and call it a day like the Mustang. The new Charger is somewhat guilty of this but it is integrated a little better than the Mustang. Keep design important in the interior!

 

[9secondko]

The Mustang has always solved that problem. But the Camaro has not.

unless you’re commenting on some similarities between the s650 and the gen 6 Camaro. LOL

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