2028 Camaro 7th Gen is Coming

[MAGS1]

Weren’t they dropping valves? Or am I thinking of a different engine?

The L87 6.2L is having all kinds of problems and GM has issued a massive recall on them. Is that the one you’re thinking of?

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[Hack]

I'd love to see the Camaro come back. I really like the way the 6.2 makes power. The Mustang's biggest weakness is 5/5.2 (same thing, really) liters is too small for a 4,000 lb car. Hopefully GM gets rid of the collapsing lifters and skip shift in the next generation, though. All the failures of bearings in the 6.2 liter pickups makes me hope GM also improves oiling in their V8s.

Please, GM no more DFM!

Other than concerns about future reliability, the thing I actually disliked the most about the Camaro in the end was the seats. Really it's pretty minor. Great car overall to own for a few years. I never had a problem in the snow or rain with good tires on it, and it hooked up surprisingly well. Lots of fun and power delivery is superior to a Mustang on the street.

I'd love to see a little better styling, but if the new Camaro performs well for a reasonable price, I'm very interested even if it's a bit ugly like the 6 Gen was.

 

[Mike Pfeifer]

The L87 6.2L is having all kinds of problems and GM has issued a massive recall on them. Is that the one you’re thinking of?

No, this was actually back before I bought my Mustang. I was briefly considering a Camaro and had come across a bunch of stories of valves falling into the cylinder while running, with the expected carnage that would cause. I didn’t really dig too deep about it because I knew it wasn’t really what I wanted anyway. But it stuck in my brain anyway.

 

[13GetThere]

I saw 3 articles this morning about the Camaro coming back. Okay, 2 really; one was about a new V-8 small block that is supposed to produce over 500 hp. The first article was the Camaro was probably coming back. The second was the small block V-8. The third was the Camaro is coming back and was probably going to be a 4 door.

Ya know, good ideas just have to be fucked into failure.

 

[BreadBurner]

Weren’t they dropping valves? Or am I thinking of a different engine?

They were dropping lifters due to the AFM/DOD system in order to "increase" efficiency of their fuel ratings with the EPA. Even the manuals had the same lifters as the auto, but did not share the same tune to activate due to the difference in transmission operations. The failures were mostly noted in the COVID production iterations of the 6.2 despite having earlier reporting on the trucks with the same engine. My main reason why I no longer sought the 1LEs.

 

[9secondko]

As mentioned before, GM has been developing a new line of V8 engines. I think that's what we are seeing with the new LS6 to start. It's formidable.

They will be using some version of the new LS6 most likely in the Camaro (530 hp and 520 tq in the C8 GS).

Hopefully Ford is working on a larger displacement follow-up to the Coyote that makes substantial low end torque. and horsepower to exceed what GM produce. Supposedly they are making larger displacement engines (mostly for trucks), but they are sub-500 hp targets at the moment. Would be great to see them substantially higher in Mustang applications. Making torque at the low end seems to be challenging for OHC engines without boost. But they tend to make higher horsepower numbers. I think Ford has traditionally left a lot on the table with smaller displacement V8s. Would be great to see them turn it up a notch in that department.

 

[MachNroll]

Hopefully GM has learned by now that yet another modern iteration of the '69 isn't necessary.

Pick '70-'73 this time for inspiration.

A 70-73 inspired 2027 Camaro might event motivate Dodge to go back to the drawing board....

 

[Sean22]

You must be fun at parties

I am actually

 

[WItoTX]

What is the failure mode within that engine ?

The ones I know of, rod bearings/main bearings failed.

 

[geep81]

They build Cadillacs on the same platform as the last Camaro...

It was a great platform, they just made the Camaro on top of it unappealing in a number of critical ways.

 

[Tinpot]

I don’t know…. Wasn’t the last iteration discontinued because of poor sales ? What’s the difference now ?

 

[lo-fi]

Single biggest factor discussed amongst my crew was the visibility. I've never been in a worse car. It was simply terrible. Calling the visibility terrible is an insult to terrible. It was whatever is worse than terrible.

They gotta fix it. If they fix that, then I'll at least consider it and I know many others with the same thought. Damn thing was a coffin.

 

[martinjlm]

It would be the second time the Camaro name has been revived. 2003 - 2009 there was no Camaro and 2025 - ?.

Outsold probably but the Camaro has competed and even won the sales title a few times. In 1984 the Camaro sold 261,591 units vs the Mustangs 141,480 which is unheard of today in terms of two door car sales. It also outsold the Mustang a few times over its fifth generation (2010-2015) but yah the Mustang has mostly outsold the Camaro https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...aro-vs-mustang-sales-numbers-in-living-color/

Outperformed I highly doubt. Alpha is considered a better platform than S550/S650 and that is what the next Camaro will be built on. The next Gen V8 is a 6.7L(409 cu. in) that makes 535hp and 520 ft lbs and I expect this engine to be offered in the SS version of the car. Getting a V8 has meant you get the Tremec 6 speed manual as well and hopefully that continues. You need to step up to a Shelby or DH to get a Tremec in the Mustang.

I've made some assumptions about powertrain so I'm anxiously awaiting details but I'm optimistic. Maybe the biggest question is what form this car will take. We could see a sedan or heaven forbid a cuv. I'm hoping for a two door coupe but if that's offered I imagine it will be alongside a sedan to broaden the appeal of the car and improve sales.

I’ve been away from GM for a number of years now but I still have some “connect” points. Expect 6.7L V8. Expect Tremec 6MT. From people I know who have seen the clay models it is not based on Gen 1. There are 2dr and 4dr clays. Does NOT mean they will do both as multiple clay models to zero in on a final design is the norm. Could be either, could be both.

My own thinking is that since Cadillac and Buick will have 4dr sedans it leaves room for a coupe for Chevrolet.

 

[martinjlm]

Car is going to be based on a Cadillac and a Buick. No way it's cheaper than a Mustang. I bet it's priced more like the new Charger Sixpack and up.

Same platform and same overall form does not mean same price. There is so much that can be done with content and materials to mitigate price. It actually works out BETTER to be based on a platform that has other volume in order to thin out the capital costs. The last Camaro was built on the Cadillac architecture and cost nowhere near what similarly equipped CT4 / CT5 cost.

 

[martinjlm]

What ever chevy does I hope they put it on a diet. It needs to weigh around 3600 3700lbs wet with a V8 manual Then it would be fun.

You do realize that model year by model year the 6th Gen Camaro was actually lighter than Mustang, right?

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