2021 pp1?

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First I’ve seen this...
It's a typo. The 2021 didn't get smaller discplacement or change compression. 12:1 and 307 c.i. (5.03 liters).





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The 2018 PP1 includes everything on the list for 21 MY. They are the same. Your sticker just didn't list everything. I have a 2018 PP1, here's the all-inclusive list from the 2018 Mustang brochure:

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Sucks that Ford pushed the MSRP to $55,000.
Now close to a Mach 1
 

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Magnaride is great after several months with it. I live in our "midtown" area, historic homes, bad streets lol. So certain areas I take it out of Sport+ and back to Normal just because it cushions the ride, but then can go back to Sport+ in better areas.
 

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Magnaride is great after several months with it. I live in our "midtown" area, historic homes, bad streets lol. So certain areas I take it out of Sport+ and back to Normal just because it cushions the ride, but then can go back to Sport+ in better areas.
Great, thanks for the comment. I choked on that additional cost to the $6500 Performance Pack in my 2021 but hearing similar comments and watching videos of how the technology adapts to all situations
I am glad I coughed up.
 

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Sucks that Ford pushed the MSRP to $55,000.
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You can build a GT Premium with A10, PP1, MagneRide, and Safe and smart for $51,600. That is pretty expensive, but that's a pretty nice vehicle. That said, my 2018 with those same options had an msrp of $49k. Pretty much spot on factoring inflation from 2018-2021.

The $55k you're seeing must also include things like 401a and active exhaust, which I agree, is a lot of money for a GT.
 

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It is an obvious difference to me. I love Sport+ mode, but there are several streets I go back to normal on.
 
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Great, thanks for the comment. I choked on that additional cost to the $6500 Performance Pack in my 2021 but hearing similar comments and watching videos of how the technology adapts to all situations
I am glad I coughed up.
I commented in another thread that it's mostly a wash if you are getting a fully loaded GT. Yes the PP pack went up considerably but now the safe and smart package is included in premium model. So overall MSRP is only about $350 over a fully optioned 2020.
 

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You can build a GT Premium with A10, PP1, MagneRide, and Safe and smart for $51,600. That is pretty expensive, but that's a pretty nice vehicle. That said, my 2018 with those same options had an msrp of $49k. Pretty much spot on factoring inflation from 2018-2021.

The $55k you're seeing must also include things like 401a and active exhaust, which I agree, is a lot of money for a GT.
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PP was $2495 on my 2016 window sticker.
2016 PP came with (As per Order Guide)
-19" X 9" (F) 19" X 9.5" (R) Ebony Black-painted Aluminum Wheels
-255/40R19 (F) 275/40R19 (R) Summer Only Tires1
-Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers with Larger Rotors
-“Engine Turn” Aluminum Instrument Panel
-Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
-Heavy-duty Front Springs
-K-Brace
-Larger Radiator
-Spoiler Delete
-Strut-tower Brace
-TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio
-Unique Chassis Tuning
-Unique Stability Control, EPAS and ABS Tuning
-Upsized Rear Sway Bar

2021 PP (As per Order Guide)
• 19" X 9" (F) 19" X 9.5" (R) Ebony Black-painted Aluminum Wheels
• 255/40R19 (F) 275/40R19 (R) (Summer Only) Tires1
• Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers – Black with Larger Rotors
• “Engine Spun” Aluminum Instrument Panel
• Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
• K-Brace
• Larger Radiator
Performance Rear Wing (Fastback Only)
Black Painted Strut-Tower Brace
• Spoiler Delete (Convertible Only)
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio (Manual)
TORSEN® Differential with 3.55 Axle Ratio (Automatic)
• Unique Chassis Tuning
• Unique EPAS, ABS and Stability Control Tuning
• Upsized Rear Sway Bar

Basically the same package as 2015/2016
2018-2020 PP2 at least included the magnaride.

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My 2019 PP1 also has:
Wowza. PP1 on my 18 was $4k.

According to my sticker:
GT Performance Package
  • 19 Ebony Black Pntd Alum Wheel
  • 255F/275R/40r19 Summer Tire (PS4S)
  • Performance Rear Wing
  • 3.55 Ratio Limited Slip Axle
According to Ford.com for 2021 MY:
  • 19"x9" (F) 19" x 9.5" (R) Ebony Black Painted Aluminum Wheels
  • 255/40 R10 (F) 275/40 R19 (R) (Summer Only) Tires
  • Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers - Black with Larger Rotors
  • "Engine Spun" Aluminum instrument Panel
  • Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
  • Heavy-duty Front Springs
  • K-Brace
  • Larger Radiator
  • Performance Rear Wing
  • Black Painted Strut-Tower Brace
  • TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio (Manual)
  • TORSEN® Differential with 3.55 Axle Ration (Automatic)
  • Unique Chassis Tuning
  • Unique Stability Control, EPAS and ABS Tuning
  • Upsized Rear Sway Bar
I've highlighted the things I think are actually different. What's on my sticker vs what Ford advertises seems to leave out a few things. Looks like they mixed the PP2 springs, K brace, and radiator into the PP1. Not exactly sure though.
My 2019 PP1 also comes with:
  • Heavy-duto Front Springs
  • K-Brace

Also, mine is one of the '19's that had the PP1 at the $4k ('18 price).

UNFORTUNATELY, It comes with a SILVER-Painted strut tower brace, so I am guessing that's one expensive black paint on the 2021 strut braces!!!
 

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yep, used cars are pretty darn close to new. id pay the small premium for new with warranty and peace of mind.
I looked for months before I found my 2015 PP1 at CarMax for less than $27k. I got it for $26k w/ 45k miles, and I still feel like I overpaid. The market is rough right now; I picked a bad time to get in the market. With that being said, this car was a bargain relative to the current market--especially since I got it from CarMax at that price(they are generally high). It had three issues when I test drove it, and CarMax fixed all three issues without increasing the sticker price on the car(AC not working, chipped windshield[I pulled some BS out of my ass to have this fixed], and creaking noise from font when hitting bumps).
 

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I looked for months before I found my 2015 PP1 at CarMax for less than $27k. I got it for $26k w/ 45k miles, and I still feel like I overpaid. The market is rough right now; I picked a bad time to get in the market. With that being said, this car was a bargain relative to the current market--especially since I got it from CarMax at that price(they are generally high). It had three issues when I test drove it, and CarMax fixed all three issues without increasing the sticker price on the car(AC not working, chipped windshield[I pulled some BS out of my ass to have this fixed], and creaking noise from font when hitting bumps).
Good job. Car max is tough but good you held their feet to the fire to fix problems.
 

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My 2019 PP1 also has:


My 2019 PP1 also comes with:
  • Heavy-duto Front Springs
  • K-Brace

Also, mine is one of the '19's that had the PP1 at the $4k ('18 price).

UNFORTUNATELY, It comes with a SILVER-Painted strut tower brace, so I am guessing that's one expensive black paint on the 2021 strut braces!!!
Yes it was.
 

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Not sure if it's rule or something, but I noticed from 2 movie on YT, where they were showcasing the GTs, and the cars were fitted with Pirellis.
Do you think it's a mistake, or they really got rid of Michelins?
Especially on PP cars it may cause again crowd issues:crackup:

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Yeah, it's been discussed already. They reserve the Pilot Sports for the Mach 1 now. PP1 is honestly a rip off at this point with how little you get for the 5 grand.
 

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I'm just taking a WAG, but I'd bet their procurement is similar to a municipality where they put out a spec to bid to multiple suppliers for a contracted amount and go with a low cost responsible bidder. As projects change so might components? It's generally all about some type of cost reduction.

Could also be a supply thing and Pirelli can meet their demand

Like I said, just a WAG
 

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