2021 pp1?

[Decible]

anyone noticed, the 2021 has only 302 ci and cr 11:1 and still made 460 compare to 2020 gt 307 ci and cr 12:1.

First I’ve seen this...

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[Decible]

Wowza. PP1 on my 18 was $4k.

According to my sticker:
GT Performance Package

• 19 Ebony Black Pntd Alum Wheel
• 255F/275R/40r19 Summer Tire (PS4S)
• Performance Rear Wing
• 3.55 Ratio Limited Slip Axle

According to Ford.com for 2021 MY:

• 19"x9" (F) 19" x 9.5" (R) Ebony Black Painted Aluminum Wheels
• 255/40 R10 (F) 275/40 R19 (R) (Summer Only) Tires
• Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers - Black with Larger Rotors
• "Engine Spun" Aluminum instrument Panel
• Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
• K-Brace
• Larger Radiator
• Performance Rear Wing
• Black Painted Strut-Tower Brace
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio (Manual)
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.55 Axle Ration (Automatic)
• Unique Chassis Tuning
• Unique Stability Control, EPAS and ABS Tuning
• Upsized Rear Sway Bar

I've highlighted the things I think are actually different. What's on my sticker vs what Ford advertises seems to leave out a few things. Looks like they mixed the PP2 springs, K brace, and radiator into the PP1. Not exactly sure though.

My 20 pp1 has everything you highlighted and so did my 16 pp1

 

[Garfy]

When I ordered my 20 it was over 5k. Funny thing is a fully loaded 20 A10 was 55,045. A fully loaded 21 is only 360.00 more . That’s not that bad really.

Guess they're finally producing '21s as I think they sold off enough '20s which is probably a low number due to their stopping producing for a few months while they were making ventilators and other PPE. But, I have my '20 and am happy with it although it's only a "base" GT. A low-12 1/4 mile is more than enough for me because back in the late 60's a Z-28 was only doing mid to low 13s and didn't have anywhere near the kind of fuel mileage these Coyotes have. Hell, I had a V6 that gave only 16mpg so 19 is great!

 

[hlh1]

My 20 pp1 has everything you highlighted and so did my 16 pp1

Same here on my 19GT PP1 A10.

 

[CD3]

wow - about the cost of PP2 was, IIRC. Does it now include Magnaride?

No Magnaride is another $1600. Just bought a 2021. Expensive but was on the car

 

[Takeshi]

wow - about the cost of PP2 was, IIRC. Does it now include Magnaride?

No Magnaride is another $1600. Just bought a 2021. Expensive but was on the car

Correcting some info; 2018-2020 PP2 came with MagneRide included for $6500 for the Package. 2021 Ford discontinued PP2 package.

Magneride is a standalone $1695 option you can add to pp1 was standard on pp2 for 2018-2020.

2021 Has just Performance Package, which MagneRide can be added.

MagneRide Comfort and Cornering Worth every Penny.

 

[CD3]

Yup very certain. There's a thread on it already. Checked local listings for new 2021 PP1s and they have them in the photo.
So more money and inferior tire.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/pirelli-tires-now-on-pp1-mustangs.154098/page-7

 

[CD3]

No Magnaride is another $1600. Just bought a 2021. Expensive but was on the car

There is No PP1 or PP2 for 2021. Just Performance Package and yes it is a rip adding the Magnaride for what was included in the PP2 package in 2020.

 

[Soulja4187]

There is No PP1 or PP2 for 2021. Just Performance Package and yes it is a rip adding the Magnaride for what was included in the PP2 package in 2020.

Because on previous years there were 2 performance pack people started calling it PP1 and PP2. But their true names are GT Performance Pack and Performance Pack Level 2. So for 2021 we still have a PP1 knows as GT Performance Pack

 

[pyrophilus]

I bought my 2019 PP2 (sticker $50k) for $37k at 14k miles.

But it has a factory anti-theft device that may have helped my deal (6 spd manual).

I got my 2019 GT Premium, PP1, active exhaust, B&O, enh. Security, Safe&Smart (sticker $49k) for $35K at 18k miles.

It too was a 6MT. It was listed at a Chevy dealer and listed at $33k. I drove down to the dealer and the salesperson was ecstatic, saying the car was sitting in the back of the lot for a few days after someone traded it in and they weren't sure about the car so they just listed it. He went to finalize and then came back saying that the manager went over the car and they realized that it has brembo brakes.

They said they should have really listed it at $38k. I gave them a hard time for making me drive 4.5 hours down. We settled at $35k.

The car was in disgusting condition (dirty interior, very dirty paint). They wanted to charge me $895 for "reconditioning". I told them that they can keep the reconditioning, and I'll save myself the 895. They agreed, but when I picked up the car, the salesperson said that the dealer decided to di the reconditioning.

I took it to the Ford dealer that I use, and the service manager's eyeballs popped when he saw the mileage. He thought it was a '20 that I just got and said, "this car looks brand new!!"

I have been looking at prices since my purchase and I can't seem to find a comparable used car at similar prices. My coworkers said that because of covid, used car prices seem to be going up.

 

[gadgtfreek]

I got my 2019 GT Premium, PP1, active exhaust, B&O, enh. Security, Safe&Smart (sticker $49k) for $35K at 18k miles.

It too was a 6MT. It was listed at a Chevy dealer and listed at $33k. I drove down to the dealer and the salesperson was ecstatic, saying the car was sitting in the back of the lot for a few days after someone traded it in and they weren't sure about the car so they just listed it. He went to finalize and then came back saying that the manager went over the car and they realized that it has brembo brakes.

They said they should have really listed it at $38k. I gave them a hard time for making me drive 4.5 hours down. We settled at $35k.

The car was in disgusting condition (dirty interior, very dirty paint). They wanted to charge me $895 for "reconditioning". I told them that they can keep the reconditioning, and I'll save myself the 895. They agreed, but when I picked up the car, the salesperson said that the dealer decided to di the reconditioning.

I took it to the Ford dealer that I use, and the service manager's eyeballs popped when he saw the mileage. He thought it was a '20 that I just got and said, "this car looks brand new!!"

I have bee looking at prices and I can't seem to find a comparable used car at similar prices. My coworkers said that because of covid, used car prices seem to be going up.

My paint was in good condition, but the interior was a little dirty and the previous owner smoked in it. Since then it stays detailed and gets spray waxed every other week. The car is gorgeous, and the interior doesn't stink anymore. It's def an eye catcher.

 

[CD3]

Because on previous years there were 2 performance pack people started calling it PP1 and PP2. But their true names are GT Performance Pack and Performance Pack Level 2. So for 2021 we still have a PP1 knows as GT Performance Pack

Correct the issue is that Ford in 2021 charges $6295 for Performance Package which DOES NOT INCLUDE MAGNERIDE. $1695 for Magnaride so we are at $7990 for what was PP2 at $6500 (estimate) in prior years.
See my window sticker

 

[okfoz]

PP was $2495 on my 2016 window sticker.
2016 PP came with (As per Order Guide)
-19" X 9" (F) 19" X 9.5" (R) Ebony Black-painted Aluminum Wheels
-255/40R19 (F) 275/40R19 (R) Summer Only Tires1
-Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers with Larger Rotors
-“Engine Turn” Aluminum Instrument Panel
-Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
-Heavy-duty Front Springs
-K-Brace
-Larger Radiator
-Spoiler Delete
-Strut-tower Brace
-TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio
-Unique Chassis Tuning
-Unique Stability Control, EPAS and ABS Tuning
-Upsized Rear Sway Bar

2021 PP (As per Order Guide)
• 19" X 9" (F) 19" X 9.5" (R) Ebony Black-painted Aluminum Wheels
• 255/40R19 (F) 275/40R19 (R) (Summer Only) Tires1
• Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers – Black with Larger Rotors
• “Engine Spun” Aluminum Instrument Panel
• Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
• K-Brace
• Larger Radiator
• Performance Rear Wing (Fastback Only)
• Black Painted Strut-Tower Brace
• Spoiler Delete (Convertible Only)
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio (Manual)
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.55 Axle Ratio (Automatic)
• Unique Chassis Tuning
• Unique EPAS, ABS and Stability Control Tuning
• Upsized Rear Sway Bar

Basically the same package as 2015/2016
2018-2020 PP2 at least included the magnaride.

John

 

[CD3]

Correcting some info; 2018-2020 PP2 came with MagneRide included for $6500 for the Package. 2021 Ford discontinued PP2 package.

Magneride is a standalone $1695 option you can add to pp1 was standard on pp2 for 2018-2020.

2021 Has just Performance Package, which MagneRide can be added.

MagneRide Comfort and Cornering Worth every Penny.

Agree. MR worth it for sure

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Wowza. PP1 on my 18 was $4k.

According to my sticker:
GT Performance Package

• 19 Ebony Black Pntd Alum Wheel
• 255F/275R/40r19 Summer Tire (PS4S)
• Performance Rear Wing
• 3.55 Ratio Limited Slip Axle

According to Ford.com for 2021 MY:

• 19"x9" (F) 19" x 9.5" (R) Ebony Black Painted Aluminum Wheels
• 255/40 R10 (F) 275/40 R19 (R) (Summer Only) Tires
• Brembo™ Six-Piston Front Brake Calipers - Black with Larger Rotors
• "Engine Spun" Aluminum instrument Panel
• Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Vacuum)
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
• K-Brace
• Larger Radiator
• Performance Rear Wing
• Black Painted Strut-Tower Brace
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.73 Axle Ratio (Manual)
• TORSEN® Differential with 3.55 Axle Ration (Automatic)
• Unique Chassis Tuning
• Unique Stability Control, EPAS and ABS Tuning
• Upsized Rear Sway Bar

I've highlighted the things I think are actually different. What's on my sticker vs what Ford advertises seems to leave out a few things. Looks like they mixed the PP2 springs, K brace, and radiator into the PP1. Not exactly sure though.

The 2018 PP1 includes everything on the list for 21 MY. They are the same. Your sticker just didn't list everything. I have a 2018 PP1, here's the all-inclusive list from the 2018 Mustang brochure:

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