2018+ GT350

[thePill]

Ford knows the only way the Camaro can beat a GT350 is if it goes away.


The GT350 will continue to 2020. It is the Mustang's Motorsport entry. Not only is it hear to stay, it's getting faster next year

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[thePill]

Completely irrelevant. The GT350 is much more special than the GT500 simply because it only came back for a 50year anniversary. In contrast, the 500 came out 10 years ago, went away for a few, came back out, etc.

Don't believe that the GT350 will extend beyond the 17' model year, as it was only made during 1965-1967. I believe it will mirror the same 3 year production run from 2015-2017 for historical value.

The GT500 and potentially a Mach1 will fill in the gap for the GT350 when it's gone.

Nope, that was never the plan.


GT>GT350>GT500


Maybe room for a anniversary model in 2019 but that's it fella's. No Mach 1, No Cobra Jet, No Boss, No Bullett until sales crap themselves.

The GT350 will be a MY2018, 2019, 2020 car as well.

 

[Bossing]

I think a key question, long-term in regards to time, are the effects of NVH due to the high-revving FPC Voodoo... whether to minor rattling/vibrations to other underlying unknowns. We may not even "hear" the symptom but it can still be present and may cause an issue.

I do think Ford has put a lot of R&D into this but again in regards to the effects later on.... we just don't know. Sooner or later we'll see what unmasks in one form or another. But that won't deter me from owning one... the car is still well worth it.

 

[thePill]

With how many issues this car has and will have within the warranty period, id stop making them right now if i was ford. I still love it, but can see how its been a money pit of a car. It's also helped the brand in many ways. We should know by first quarter next year

Don't view the GT350 as an OEM ONLY car. Its profits are spread across the Ford Racing and Ford Performance efforts as well as GT trickle down.

No, the GT350 wasn't plagued with issues. It is a solid race car.

Regardless, the Voodoo is evolving and becoming a better engine this year. For a Year 1 drivetrain, there were less failures than the LT4 in a z06.


The GT350 has real street credit, like the old Z06. It's not going anywhere ;)

550hp/450tq and maybe a little weight loss and new wheels.

 

[5.0 435]

How many models of the GT350 did Ford make?

Shelby GT350 years of production were 1965,1966,1967,1968,1969,and leftovers were 1970.

 

[machsmith]

A lot of you guys hit on the reason you dont see more deaths of this car. You dont see them on the road. They are locked up in garages. How many oil filters have come off of peoples cars not on this forum? How many will come off of the garage queens when the owners finally start to drive it? The vibes down the road will be problematic... and i agree, its still worth it. If i wasnt machanically inclinded with means to a lift etc. I wouldnt own this car.

They also have their hands tied on the assembly line building the new lincoln continental. It seems like they have too much on their plate. Not saying the couldnt wring them out, but IMO, its not worth it financially with the FPC. They could drop the boss in a couple years with the CPC 5.2 and it would be a beast too, with no issues of vibes.
12 by 20? When are we supposes get 2 more performance cars a year going forward? Haha

 

[lemers]

I think a key question, long-term in regards to time, are the effects of NVH due to the high-revving FPC Voodoo... whether to minor rattling/vibrations to other underlying unknowns. We may not even "hear" the symptom but it can still be present and may cause an issue.

I do think Ford has put a lot of R&D into this but again in regards to the effects later on.... we just don't know. Sooner or later we'll see what unmasks in one form or another. But that won't deter me from owning one... the car is still well worth it.

The longevity concerns got me thinking about how long the warranty is for and so, Im just asking since my warranty info is in another country...


This is what I found online for Mustangs in general. Is the below the same for the Shelby?

Warranty
Bumper to Bumper: 3 years / 36,000 miles
Powertrain: 5 years / 60,000 miles
Safety Restraint System: 5 years / 60,000 miles
Corrosion (Perforation only): 5 years / Unlimited miles
Roadside Assistance Program: 5 years / 60,000 miles

 

[Bossing]

^ Yes all those.... Stateside we also have that.

The 3/36 bumper-to-bumper and 5/60 powertrain as standard items isn't bad... could be better but we'd have to pay extra for that.

 

[5.Oh Crush]

Getting rid of the GT350 would be the equivalent of Corvette not doing a Z06. A GT350 took priority over a GT500 just as the Z06 over the ZR1.

It would be problematic (and historically inconsistent) for Ford business to continue the 350 when a refresh is coming. It would be a different 350 than the one now. When has Ford carried over specialty mustangs the very next year of a refresh. A refresh and a new GT500. Lots on a plate.

Using the scientific method and Occam's Razor (fewest assumptions) weighs heavy against your prediction.

Stay thirsty my friend!
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[JohnZiraldo]

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Ford's GT350, Porsche's GT4, BMW M4 GTS are headed to IMSA GT4 in 2018. Ford has a monopoly on the V8, they won't likely abandon it now.

It has always been GT, GT350, GT500. That won't change for a long, long time.

It was very clearly stated that the Ford GT was a two year program. Then something changed. Winning LeMans? Success in IMSA WTC GTLM? A new Ford Performance department under Dave Pericak? And now we have at least a four year racing and production program for the FGT.

We also now have a Fusion Sport and a Focus RS AWD, 12 High Performance vehicles promised by the end of the decade, and a new GT4 class in IMSA with leadership from Ford and Porsche along with a class winning performance by the GT350 in GS.

Despite what may have been said earlier, it makes no sense whatsoever that the GT350R with 500+ NA HP will disappear any time soon. A name change to 'Mustang GT4' may be appropriate though with a new level of exclusivity and an even bigger ADM.

 

[Epiphany]

Apparently the 5.2 was initially designed with equal length shorties but the engine wouldn't pass emissions.

Direct or Port Direct Injection is needed for it to pass. 25hp/20tq should be rather easy. The cost is shared with the Ford Racing Program as well as Ford Performance. It is difficult to really tell how expensive it is once these programs pick up the tab.

The 5.2 was tested with a number or exhaust variations. The headers you are talking about weren't seriously considered but were tested.

DI is not needed for it to pass. I had a lengthy discussion at the 5.2 powertrain reveal at "SVT headquarters" with Adam Christian, an ICE engineer with Ford that played a big part in its success. Adam made it clear that "in a normally aspirated application, Ford engineers achieved better atomization with a port fuel injection setup. DI shows weakness when fuel hits metal (slang for aluminum, etc, in this case) and doesn't perform as well. Supercharged/turbocharged applications are another ball of wax."

In the end, Adam suggested that it is going to take some pretty drastic conditions (ie, legislative) to necessitate its use.

 

[kairojya]

I learned some interesting things from this thread. And holy hell, that Z28 depreciation. I love my car, but I'm unsure how happy I'd be with it next year if it's depreciated 40% already!

 

[stanglife]

I learned some interesting things from this thread. And holy hell, that Z28 depreciation. I love my car, but I'm unsure how happy I'd be with it next year if it's depreciated 40% already!

Well if the Mustang GT has too many queues from the 350, including a significant HP bump - be prepared for high depreciation, IMO. I hope they don't include too much into the GT, making the 350 less "special". Some people will argue that it's still special, and it is - but...if they offered a GT with mag suspension and the revised spindles/track of the 350, I'd be all over it for a weekend track car at 60% the price of a 350.

 

[5.Oh Crush]

I learned some interesting things from this thread. And holy hell, that Z28 depreciation. I love my car, but I'm unsure how happy I'd be with it next year if it's depreciated 40% already!

My 2015 mustang went down about 30% after one year. That's with only 10K miles on it after 1 year.

 

[Tony Alonso]

DI is not needed for it to pass. I had a lengthy discussion at the 5.2 powertrain reveal at "SVT headquarters" with Adam Christian, an ICE engineer with Ford that played a big part in its success. Adam made it clear that "in a normally aspirated application, Ford engineers achieved better atomization with a port fuel injection setup. DI shows weakness when fuel hits metal (slang for aluminum, etc, in this case) and doesn't perform as well. Supercharged/turbocharged applications are another ball of wax."

In the end, Adam suggested that it is going to take some pretty drastic conditions (ie, legislative) to necessitate its use.

This jives with what I thought I had read when the 5.0L was developed and profiled in an article a few years back, even though they protected the engine design for a DI configuration. Adam was also interviewed for that article too.

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