2015 GT accident

[Five Oh Brian]

Nothing wrong with normal driving on stock Pirellis in cold weather. Just let them heat up normally and drive like you are suppose too.

There is a blue & white decal in the driver's door jamb in any Mustang with summer-only performance tires that clearly says not to drive on these tires in cold weather.

I had an '11 Brembo Package GT with summer-only Pirellis that absolutely sucked when the temps were below 50. I ended up replacing them with high performance all season tires and am so much happier for doing so.

Glad to hear the OP is okay. Not buying the hydroplaning story, though, as there's no standing water in any of the pics. The real culprit is the summer-only tires. Ford should really offer a no-charge all season option on PP models. They finally starting offering this option on Taurus SHO's, as well as Focus & Fiesta ST's.

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[Tcnarber]

PP wheels on a damp road......hydroplane in a heartbeat

 

[jtiedemann4]

Live in LA also. Switch to Winter Mode in the rain and you won't have the problem. Drives like a 4 cylinder and keeps things in check. Also when it's cold out until the tires warm up.

 

[Spartan]

So I was just on a road trip to a Church convention and hydroplaned and went head on in the wall. Needless to say I'm very thankful to God me and my friend were completely okay without a scratch, although I'm sad about my car.


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Sorry to hear about your car...and glad to hear you're ok.

I hope you can be honest with us and tell us how fast you were going so people can somewhat be relieved/or not about their PP tires

 

[Potrillo]

Glad you are ok.

 

[Caballo]

Glad everyone is ok. Though I doubt that you literally hydroplaned, that happens when there is more standing water than your tire can displace and your car literally turns in to a boat. Looks more like summer tires + damp road + cooler temps conspired against your tire traction. Also throw a little thanks to Ford engineers and government crash mandates while your at it.

 

[evildronepilot]

I was just going to parrot what Caballo said. "Hydroplaning" and getting the rear out are two separate things. This is my first RWD car and I've already realized 3 things: A) I need to be careful on the throttle and B) I need all seasons or snows (I'm planning on going skiing and I live in rainy ol' Seattle, and C) Though "Snow / Wet" mode seems like cheating, I need to use it.

These cars do seem like they're built like tanks though. I REALLY want to point out some irony, but I'm just glad you're ok

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[Pokergeneg]

Glad you are o.k., sorry about the car; noticed the road was wet--can't tell
in the photos--but cold enough maybe some ice. I won't be taking my GT
Premium CO out 12/30 or 12/31 because here in Las Vegas will be raining
Tue and turning into snow Wed-------Yes I said Las Vegas. "I will date a
Plain Jane but I will never drive one".

 

[Celestias]

Sorry to hear this as that is quite Scary. Glad your ok though. Recently it's rained heavily where I live and winter/rain mode helped me out. Sometimes there's nothing u can do to prevent a crash though and knowing it will hold up like that to keep us safe is nice.

 

[Phlyguy]

Read some old reviews on the Pirelli P Zero tires specifically in a Road and Track "Blind" comparison tire evaluation and the results were pretty damning I must say. Out of nine tires tested in "General" daily driver road conditions, the P Zeroes came in dead last! The testers at R &T were very surprised (and I'm paraphrasing here) how poorly the tires handled anything but track-like dry road conditions overall especially considering the cost per tire After reading that review, I may be considering other tire options in my immediate future

 

[P51Guy]

Really sorry to see this. Glad you & your friend are ok. Hope to see you up and running soon.

 

[DickR]

Some info on hydroplaning versus wet traction.

As a rule, tread design affects hydroplaning resistance at high speeds and in deep water. Tread compound affects wet traction at lower speeds or in shallow water.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=16

Tire Rack tests are a useful source of comparative tire performance data. Also sometimes you can compare, for example, the wet cornering g's of summer tires with that of all season tires. In general with good tread depth a summer tire will actually do better in the wet than the equivalent all season tire until the weather gets "cold". Tread depth is the biggest factor in many situations. This video comparing wet braking distances for different tread depths is interesting. http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index.jsp?video=5&tab=tires

Dick

 

[Sasuketr]

Glad you are ok! How was the weather conditions when u had the accident? I see you live in LA and have the PP wheels.

 

[GT]

Sorry for your loss but glad you both are ok. I know how you feel.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11455

 

[cush]

It probably isn't totaled since it doesn't look like there was any serious damage to the actual frame itself mostly panels and the front support that, but once they take it apart we can be wrong

Remember this is "Unit Body" construction, no real frame, sure there are sub-frames front and rear, but if the unit body is tweaked it'll never be straight again...

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