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If you’re having multiple failures using the same parts - then the problems lies within:Im just venting my frustration, 4th set of Mcleod clutches going into my car......made close to 1200 wheel on the dyno but so far i havent been able to use even 1000 of it......these 10r80's are weak sauce!!!!
People keep saying there is only clutches and converter for 10r80's... Well no other parts you "make stronger" is going to allow it to hold more power. By changing the friction material you're basically moving to a rougher sandpaper in a sense. But not actually increasing anything.
The other issue I'm having here is that no one has mentioned tuning issues. It is not hard at all to burn up a set of clutches.
My car when it was stock motor and transmission made 959whp @11lbs. I ran it like this from 7lbs being my lowest to 13lbs my highest for months. With no issues. Including everything from street racing to tonsss of passes at the track.
Now onto a "built 10r80". To really get something that is going to hold more power like I said you can't just change the friction material, you need to add more clutches and steals. Limitless Performance and Fabrication has modified the clutch baskets to where each basket is holding 3-4 more frictions/clutches.
One thing the OP does mention is that "the bottom 8" guys have multuple transmissions. I am on my one and only 10r80 that I have. You're more than welcome to check out my youtube where I have shown pulling the trans out before. Multiple times actually! First time of course was to swap from stock to adding in mcloed clutches and packing extras in each clutch pack. Second time wasn't until I went built motor, in which Justin inspected all of the clutches and they looked fresh, even after running 8's. So now built motor is in and head off to Georgia from Texas for Mod Nationals. After 5 passes, each one below 8.6 with a fastest of 8.2, the front bushing in my new Circle D converter pushed itself out. Get back home to Texas, pull the trans swap back to stock converter, throw on a 50 shot of nitrous and back to the track. Multiple bottom 8's with fastest of 8.1. Get the converter back from Circle D,slap it in, back to the track and make it about 10 passes then at flashlight shootout in Dallas the bushing does the exact same thing. During the start of TX2K pull the trans again, take the circle d converter back to circle d, replace valve body and filter, inspect all the clutches, 95% looked new, replaced a couple, got the converter back and slapped it back in. Haven't had any headaches with the converter or trans since.
appreciate your input, i have a very capable shop doing the 10r80 stuff....that being said im sure there a a very limited few with 10r80 and over 1000 wheel surviving....my car is likely one of the heavies cars on the planet S550 wise as i weigh 450lbs and have little to no weight reduction other then basic stuff to go fast like a DS and brakes to fit welds, i see these cars no exhaust, kirky seats 200lb drivers etc etc much lighter....also my car made 1209 on the dyno in 6th gear BUT i didnt get to even a 1000 wheel setting on my controller and am having issues....If you’re having multiple failures using the same parts - then the problems lies within:
There’s been plenty of high HP S550’s using the 10R80 with much success, read through this one with 1,433HP:
- The shop or person rebuilding the transmission.
- Deficiencies with the actual parts being used.
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/1-433-hp-put-through-10r80.126488/
Maybe something in that article can help or you can reach out to their sources to determine what is causing all of your failures.
Yeah, I would be interested to know that as well.How did you pack in extras?
Thank you, for your Explanation, James.People keep saying there is only clutches and converter for 10r80's... Well no other parts you "make stronger" is going to allow it to hold more power. By changing the friction material you're basically moving to a rougher sandpaper in a sense. But not actually increasing anything.
The other issue I'm having here is that no one has mentioned tuning issues. It is not hard at all to burn up a set of clutches.
My car when it was stock motor and transmission made 959whp @11lbs. I ran it like this from 7lbs being my lowest to 13lbs my highest for months. With no issues. Including everything from street racing to tonsss of passes at the track.
Now onto a "built 10r80". To really get something that is going to hold more power like I said you can't just change the friction material, you need to add more clutches and steals. Limitless Performance and Fabrication has modified the clutch baskets to where each basket is holding 3-4 more frictions/clutches.
One thing the OP does mention is that "the bottom 8" guys have multuple transmissions. I am on my one and only 10r80 that I have. You're more than welcome to check out my youtube where I have shown pulling the trans out before. Multiple times actually! First time of course was to swap from stock to adding in mcloed clutches and packing extras in each clutch pack. Second time wasn't until I went built motor, in which Justin inspected all of the clutches and they looked fresh, even after running 8's. So now built motor is in and head off to Georgia from Texas for Mod Nationals. After 5 passes, each one below 8.6 with a fastest of 8.2, the front bushing in my new Circle D converter pushed itself out. Get back home to Texas, pull the trans swap back to stock converter, throw on a 50 shot of nitrous and back to the track. Multiple bottom 8's with fastest of 8.1. Get the converter back from Circle D,slap it in, back to the track and make it about 10 passes then at flashlight shootout in Dallas the bushing does the exact same thing. During the start of TX2K pull the trans again, take the circle d converter back to circle d, replace valve body and filter, inspect all the clutches, 95% looked new, replaced a couple, got the converter back and slapped it back in. Haven't had any headaches with the converter or trans since.