Dark Horse SC, who's adding one, who's replacing with one, what will it do to GT500 values?

[DCShelby]

You can get a new Z06 with 15K or more off the MSRP. Values of used ones are tanking.

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[9secondko]

We get it, you’re a hater. You can justify it anyway you wish. Most can and do. The cold reality is you wouldn’t be a buyer at any price point lets be honest. Higher tier vehicles of any flavor aren’t for everybody. They’re not meant to be. It is what is. There’s some things(aesthetics) I’m not completely onboard with but there’s virtually no car that’ll do that for me. If I didn’t have cftp 500 and was in the market for that type of vehicle I’d absolutely be after an SC. I think the car will be in the 120-125k range loaded. We’ll see soon enough. I wouldn’t mind a Gt3 touring or an RS, but not willing to pay where they are currently. That’s my choice, but I don’t feel the need to trash the car because I’m not willing to pony it up.

apparently you don’t. “You’re a hater” completely ignores everything and just resorts to a preschool cop-out when you don’t have a point.

The reason why I disagree with a couple others here whom I have agreed with in the past, Is bevause there is a valid criticism with current practice st Ford when it comes to the Mustang. I am and have been one of the biggest fans ever since my first car. But stupid stuff like calling an SUV “Mustang” in a Hail Mary gamble that hoped to sell more EVs regardless of the damage to the Mustang name - yet still resulting in no help at all - really gets frustrating. Then seeing Ford was on the right track with the naming of this car only to inexplicably call it something so redundant and meaningless - cuz “the future” - adds to the pile. And then there is the constant bumps in price even when deleting features, despite reusing old tech. Now we have no “Shelby” and no licensing agreement that would come with it. So… what? This is good? LOL.

When you care about one thing, you want to see it be as great as can be. In lieu of that, you want it to at least succeed in sales.

the current mustang generation has been lagging pretty bad. Recently had a bit of an uptick that could be hopeful. But getting pricing right on this enthusiastic car would be a shot in the old arm.

right now, I guess I am a bit jealous watching the corvette guys get their niche car get treated like the belle of the ball with unbelievable investment and performance while we get treated like suckers paying for yesteryear stuff, plus some band-aids to sell it today.

it’s the freaking MUSTANG. Whenever I meet folks from other countries, THIS is the car they associate with America. Not the vette or anything else usually.

now we get another predator car on another s550+.

of course we all know Ford is going to sell it like it’s a discount Lamborghini. But that kind of pricing is a fairy tale. Not based in reality. the car hasn’t earned that.

it’s a good car for what it is (that we know so far). And if Ford bumps it up to 900 hp or so, then great. That’s awesome. But it’s not looking that way. And I hope against hope that they price it more realistically this time around.

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This is NOT ALLOWED...................

Don Yenko, the legendary Chevrolet dealer and racer who created the iconic Yenko Camaro, passed away on March 5, 1987, at age 59.

You are no longer allowed to use the name or nomenclature from a previous car, if the person is dead.

Um… guess Fotd, Shelby, etc. are going to have to rebrand…

interesting rule book you have there

 

[robvas]

mustang and corvette were never competitors until the GTD came along.

Is that so?

 

[MAGS1]

But that kind of pricing is a fairy tale. Not based in reality. the car hasn’t earned that.

So tell us oh wise one what a valid price for this car would be.

It will very likely be faster than its predecessor (GT500), not due to a complete overhaul but some targeted refinements. That is, after all, what S650 is. A refined S550. $100-$125k for a monster V8 pushing 760-800hp feels pretty damn good to me.

 

[JT1]

So tell us oh wise one what a valid price for this car would be.

It will very likely be faster than its predecessor (GT500), not due to a complete overhaul but some targeted refinements. That is, after all, what S650 is. A refined S550. $100-$125k for a monster V8 pushing 760-800hp feels pretty damn good to me.

It will be heavier, not have significantly more tire, so it probably will take until somewhere north of 60 or even 80 before it pulls ahead.

On a road course, same issue, needs to horse more weight around the track, always tough to overcome.

I’m sure Ford is working hard to make this heavier car have any noticeable better performance,

 

[lo-fi]

I'm super glad the Darkhorse SC is going to exist and for the record I don't care if they called it the "Pink Pony", ridiculously cool car and I love my Mustangs. However, I do think if I'm buying for a street car, and I would be, there are better options and better doesn't mean faster.

For me, I would probably purchase in the order I listed below. I know there are some apples to oranges comparisons. However, once we get to around a $100k my view point turns to what I like best regardless of the category it fits in or who makes it. The real problem for Ford, is probably guys like me who aren't necessarily die hard Ford enthusiasts and simply automobile enthusiasts. I don't carry any brand allegiance. I've owned sports cars from VW, BMW, Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet, Dodge, Lotus, Mercedes, and Honda.

1. G8x RWD Manual M3 (I've driven this extensively, brother has one)
2. 718 Cayman GTS (manual)
3. New M2 (manual)
4. C8 Stingray (upper trim level) or G8x Competition x-Drive M3
5. Corvette Z06
6. Darkhorse SC or Blackwing (CT4-V)

 

[Inthehighdesert]

Seriously, you’re not worth the time or effort. Habe a good one.

apparently you don’t. “You’re a hater” completely ignores everything and just resorts to a preschool cop-out when you don’t have a point.

The reason why I disagree with a couple others here whom I have agreed with in the past, Is bevause there is a valid criticism with current practice st Ford when it comes to the Mustang. I am and have been one of the biggest fans ever since my first car. But stupid stuff like calling an SUV “Mustang” in a Hail Mary gamble that hoped to sell more EVs regardless of the damage to the Mustang name - yet still resulting in no help at all - really gets frustrating. Then seeing Ford was on the right track with the naming of this car only to inexplicably call it something so redundant and meaningless - cuz “the future” - adds to the pile. And then there is the constant bumps in price even when deleting features, despite reusing old tech. Now we have no “Shelby” and no licensing agreement that would come with it. So… what? This is good? LOL.

When you care about one thing, you want to see it be as great as can be. In lieu of that, you want it to at least succeed in sales.

the current mustang generation has been lagging pretty bad. Recently had a bit of an uptick that could be hopeful. But getting pricing right on this enthusiastic car would be a shot in the old arm.

right now, I guess I am a bit jealous watching the corvette guys get their niche car get treated like the belle of the ball with unbelievable investment and performance while we get treated like suckers paying for yesteryear stuff, plus some band-aids to sell it today.

it’s the freaking MUSTANG. Whenever I meet folks from other countries, THIS is the car they associate with America. Not the vette or anything else usually.

now we get another predator car on another s550+.

of course we all know Ford is going to sell it like it’s a discount Lamborghini. But that kind of pricing is a fairy tale. Not based in reality. the car hasn’t earned that.

it’s a good car for what it is (that we know so far). And if Ford bumps it up to 900 hp or so, then great. That’s awesome. But it’s not looking that way. And I hope against hope that they price it more realistically this time around.


Um… guess Fotd, Shelby, etc. are going to have to rebrand…

interesting rule book you have there

 

[Hack]

It will be heavier, not have significantly more tire, so it probably will take until somewhere north of 60 or even 80 before it pulls ahead.

On a road course, same issue, needs to horse more weight around the track, always tough to overcome.

I’m sure Ford is working hard to make this heavier car have any noticeable better performance,

It's as simple as stickier tires. Remember all the hubub about how MotorTrend said the Dark horse out brakes every production car they've ever tested? The DH weighs nearly 300 lbs more than the GT350R but out stops it.

The Trofeo tires did it. You could say the brake by wire helps, but tires are the big factor here. The DH was faster around a track than a ZL1 1LE in a test I saw. Even way down on power and a heavier car. It was a smaller track size, but the fact remains.

 

[9secondko]

Is that so?

LOL. you got me. Totally forgot about the Cobra R.

 

[9secondko]

So tell us oh wise one what a valid price for this car would be.

It will very likely be faster than its predecessor (GT500), not due to a complete overhaul but some targeted refinements. That is, after all, what S650 is. A refined S550. $100-$125k for a monster V8 pushing 760-800hp feels pretty damn good to me.

Around 80-85k sounds fair. The 2022 gt500 was 76k and that was when inflation was at 8 and 9.1%. The inflation rate today is 2.4%, indicating major slowdown in the rise of costs. also no Shelby licensing. Some upgrades to the old car and we pay more for this one, but it’s balanced by reusing the majority of the old car and no licensing fees. Less inflation also. That would be a fair price that takes into consideration everything discussed, pro and con. 100k is ridiculous unless it’s a specialized track package, etc.

 

[Dragster]

Around 80-85k sounds fair. The 2022 gt500 was 76k and that was when inflation was at 8 and 9.1%. The inflation rate today is 2.4%, indicating major slowdown in the rise of costs. also no Shelby licensing. Some upgrades to the old car and we pay more for this one, but it’s balanced by reusing the majority of the old car and no licensing fees. Less inflation also. That would be a fair price that takes into consideration everything discussed, pro and con. 100k is ridiculous unless it’s a specialized track package, etc.

Just accounting for inflation, the MSRP for a base car would be around 90K in today’s dollars. Expecting anything less than that is an unrealistic fantasy. A 2022 CFTP car would be around 117K, so add the cost of carbon ceramics and a few other new for the DHSC options, and it’s not unreasonable to think a loaded SC will be 125K+.

 

[MAGS1]

Around 80-85k sounds fair. The 2022 gt500 was 76k and that was when inflation was at 8 and 9.1%. The inflation rate today is 2.4%, indicating major slowdown in the rise of costs. also no Shelby licensing. Some upgrades to the old car and we pay more for this one, but it’s balanced by reusing the majority of the old car and no licensing fees. Less inflation also. That would be a fair price that takes into consideration everything discussed, pro and con. 100k is ridiculous unless it’s a specialized track package, etc.

Using the general inflation rate is an oversimplification of a much more complex cost schedule. You need to look at specific costs for steel, aluminum, polymers, plastics, copper, chips, etc. And the big one: labor. Some of those things outpaced the general inflation rate by a fair amount, and the union secured a massive pay raise recently, as has already been mentioned.

I’m not saying I’m happy where the prices of most things are (cars included), but I do understand what’s driving it. I still think $100-$125k for a 760-800hp, V8 RWD car in today’s world is pretty good.

 

[9secondko]

Using the general inflation rate is an oversimplification of a much more complex cost schedule. You need to look at specific costs for steel, aluminum, polymers, plastics, copper, chips, etc. And the big one: labor. Some of those things outpaced the general inflation rate by a fair amount, and the union secured a massive pay raise recently, as has already been mentioned.

I’m not saying I’m happy where the prices of most things are (cars included), but I do understand what’s driving it. I still think $100-$125k for a 760-800hp, V8 RWD car in today’s world is pretty good.

LOL. No. 100k is ridiculous. It’s not a Shelby and ford has saved money left and right on this car and should price it accordingly. Ive said everything that needs to be said about this car including what a facelift we gt500 with some improvements should cost in 2026 stripped of the Shelby licensing and heritage. Let’s not pretend Ford doesn’t charge for intangibles.

if this were a new platform, had gone twin turbo, or made some generational leap in performance (meaning truly measurable performsnce across the board. Not just “hey, look how much faster it is on this track and that track”), great. But it’s not looking that way. If Ford surprises snd the car blows us all away in comparison, then great! I’ll be happy to eat my words. But if it’s an incremental upgrade over the gr500, come on. That isn’t right at all. Especially minus the Shelby licensing.

 

[Epiphany]

 

[Hack]

Around 80-85k sounds fair. The 2022 gt500 was 76k and that was when inflation was at 8 and 9.1%. The inflation rate today is 2.4%, indicating major slowdown in the rise of costs. also no Shelby licensing. Some upgrades to the old car and we pay more for this one, but it’s balanced by reusing the majority of the old car and no licensing fees. Less inflation also. That would be a fair price that takes into consideration everything discussed, pro and con. 100k is ridiculous unless it’s a specialized track package, etc.

Pricing and cost to manufacture are not typically connected like you are assuming. Especially not for a low volume premium product. We aren't talking about shampoo or razor blades here. You can only buy this product from Ford.

I don't think Ford will try to sell 50,000 DHSC Mustangs. Ford built about 14,000 GT500s total. Many of the GT500s sold for more than MSRP, because people were willing to pay more than MSRP for the cars (Ford didn't charge enough for them). 14,000 cars represent less than 1% of what Ford sells in a year, and they took 2 years to sell that many GT500s. It's more of an advertising campaign than a profit center for them.

Used GT500s are 4-6 years old now, and they are typically selling at $85-110K. Most cars lose almost 50% of their value in that amount of time. This is another data point showing that GT500 buyers got a great deal on their cars. Ford doesn't want to price the DHSC so low that the dealers get $10K-20K of profit in ADMs over the margin that Ford leaves for them. Ford wants that money.

I wouldn't be surprised if the base DHSC is well over $100K. Ford will sell as many as they want to. The performance will be amazing and shocking. Buyers will love the car.

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