10 Speed Owners... please talk to me...

[sirben711]

What is absolutely crazy is - I had the exact opposite problem of all of you talking about your 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 shifts. All of my clunky shifts were going down in the gears, 4-3, 3-2 or 3-1 etc.

After getting a tune (FP Tune) everything was corrected.

But things were really bad before the tune, I was about to get rid of the car they were so bad.

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[MontiCristo]

It would be very difficult for me to drive a 10 speed mustang having owned and currently own the stick. It just makes for a much more satisfying driving experience, and of all the folks i've known that have one, they regularly complain of the "gear hunting". Trade it in and get a stick (if possible). Not to mention the exhaust notes are much much better and controllable with the stick. Mine is even the MT-82, don't care, love it. Will never drive an automatic V-8 performance car.

 

[Joe Gonsalves]

It would be very difficult for me to drive a 10 speed mustang having owned and currently own the stick. It just makes for a much more satisfying driving experience, and of all the folks i've known that have one, they regularly complain of the "gear hunting". Trade it in and get a stick (if possible). Not to mention the exhaust notes are much much better and controllable with the stick. Mine is even the MT-82, don't care, love it. Will never drive an automatic V-8 performance car.

I agree a manual transmission is all around more fun to drive. I also agree the exhaust note you can control. You can also do all the fun party tricks. I drove a stick since I learned how to drive. Had one in every car and truck in my younger days, till I hit 47 years old. Swore I would never go automatic. Then life happens, marriage, kids, $hity roads, endless bumper to bumper traffic, arthritis, knee replacement. Now, I'm too old to row gears with the commute I have. I do miss it, but I'm not sorry I have an A10. If it was a stick, my wife would never be able to drive it. As for the gear hunting in the 10R80, it's only when it's in normal mode. Sport mode it does not hunt nearly as bad. And in sport mode it drives like I would if it was a manual trans. Once you learn how to paddle shift the car, then almost all the fun of a manual trans can be had.

 

[Qcman17]

Until I tuned it I would have intermittent flares 3 to 4th and 4th to 5th only innsport or track mode. I now have a firm shift 1st to 2nd when it warms up. The whole car pushes forward enough to sometimes jerk my foot of the throttle if I get lazy. I have the odd time where it hang in first to 4500rpm if accelerate normal and dont reduce the pedal pressure. Doesn't happen often but it happens

Yes I get a flare in 4-5 I think but it could be 3-4 not positive. Car is stored currently so I can’t check. I did have a valve body replaced or overhauled can’t recall right now what method it was.

It was done under the tsb for harsh shifts and did nada.

I’ve still got a bit over a year of esp warranty so I’m going to keep pushing back until then and will likely tune when it’s done.

I just don’t want to void it by tuning now.

 

[barney1]

I do not have any of the issues that have been discussed in this thread. Lucky I guess.

 

[MontiCristo]

I agree a manual transmission is all around more fun to drive. I also agree the exhaust note you can control. You can also do all the fun party tricks. I drove a stick since I learned how to drive. Had one in every car and truck in my younger days, till I hit 47 years old. Swore I would never go automatic. Then life happens, marriage, kids, $hity roads, endless bumper to bumper traffic, arthritis, knee replacement. Now, I'm too old to row gears with the commute I have. I do miss it, but I'm not sorry I have an A10. If it was a stick, my wife would never be able to drive it. As for the gear hunting in the 10R80, it's only when it's in normal mode. Sport mode it does not hunt nearly as bad. And in sport mode it drives like I would if it was a manual trans. Once you learn how to paddle shift the car, then almost all the fun of a manual trans can be had.

I understand my friend. I'm 45 myself, but have never had any problems with my knees. (Now my back, that's a different story LOL). It's not my intention to dog anyone who has the 10 speed, it certainly has it's attractive features - if you drive in traffic, have health issues, want your wife to be able to drive it etc..... For me though, it's just a night and day difference. I had a '23 Dodge Charger 5.7 Blacktop edition, it was auto and I regularly drove it with the paddle shifters, but it's not even comparable. It's my opinion that performance daily drivers should be manual transmission cars, they are just more fun and substantially elevate the driving experience.

 

[Arthonon]

It's the classic manual vs. auto discussion, and for the most part it's just personal preference at this point. I had a manual '14 Mustang that had a version of the MT-82, and it was known for locking out shifts from time to time (it's been a while, so I can't recall the specifics now), so it's not like the manuals never had shift issues either.

With the '18, Ford changed the gearing on the manual making it a little wimpier at the start, and that along with my experience with the MT-82 made me decide to try the auto, and I liked it quite a bit. It wasn't perfect, but was much better than I expected, and had higher performance than the manual.

After the tune, it's a real kick in the pants. Acceleration is very linear, and the shifting is sharp and quick, with great downshifts and rev-matching. I can engine-brake going down hills, just like a manual, and it upshifts great when applying the power.

 

[MontiCristo]

It's the classic manual vs. auto discussion, and for the most part it's just personal preference at this point. I had a manual '14 Mustang that had a version of the MT-82, and it was known for locking out shifts from time to time (it's been a while, so I can't recall the specifics now), so it's not like the manuals never had shift issues either.

With the '18, Ford changed the gearing on the manual making it a little wimpier at the start, and that along with my experience with the MT-82 made me decide to try the auto, and I liked it quite a bit. It wasn't perfect, but was much better than I expected, and had higher performance than the manual.

After the tune, it's a real kick in the pants. Acceleration is very linear, and the shifting is sharp and quick, with great downshifts and rev-matching. I can engine-brake going down hills, just like a manual, and it upshifts great when applying the power.

I can appreciate that my friend, I really can, and you're right, it's a debate that's been going on longer than the Mustang vs Camaro debate, LOL. I've never experienced any lockout on my MT-82, I do find it to be a bit "notchy" at times though, but it's really not bothered me that much. I would never fault anyone for getting the 10 speed over the 6 speed, it's just that I would never be able to say the driving experience is anywhere close to being the same. Pushing a button with your fingers and working a clutch aren't even in the same ballpark.

 

[Strokerswild]

I do not have any of the issues that have been discussed in this thread. Lucky I guess.

And that's what's weird. Some have no issues or complaints, and others are ready to punt the vehicle for something else because of transmission behavior. Same transmission, but what are the differences that apparently exist between one to the next?

 

[Joe Gonsalves]

I understand my friend. I'm 45 myself, but have never had any problems with my knees. (Now my back, that's a different story LOL). It's not my intention to dog anyone who has the 10 speed, it certainly has it's attractive features - if you drive in traffic, have health issues, want your wife to be able to drive it etc..... For me though, it's just a night and day difference. I had a '23 Dodge Charger 5.7 Blacktop edition, it was auto and I regularly drove it with the paddle shifters, but it's not even comparable. It's my opinion that performance daily drivers should be manual transmission cars, they are just more fun and substantially elevate the driving experience.

Just for the record, I was 47 when I stopped driving a stick. I'm 68 now and still love Mustangs. There are times I wish my car was a stick, like I said I do miss it. But father time has caught up to me and he wants his due. I'm now paying for all the abuse I put my body through. And as far as my back goes, I'm right there with ya!

 

[MontiCristo]

Just for the record, I was 47 when I stopped driving a stick. I'm 68 now and still love Mustangs. There are times I wish my car was a stick, like I said I do miss it. But father time has caught up to me and he wants his due. I'm now paying for all the abuse I put my body through. And as far as my back goes, I'm right there with ya!

Keep cruising my friend, God bless america and V-8 ICE's

 

[engineermike]

…Same transmission, but what are the differences that apparently exist between one to the next?

My guess is sticky depends and/or slipped CDF drum bushing.

 

[Robottrainer]

Yes I get a flare in 4-5 I think but it could be 3-4 not positive. Car is stored currently so I can’t check. I did have a valve body replaced or overhauled can’t recall right now what method it was.

It was done under the tsb for harsh shifts and did nada.

I’ve still got a bit over a year of esp warranty so I’m going to keep pushing back until then and will likely tune when it’s done.

I just don’t want to void it by tuning now.

Does it do it in every mode or just specific modes?

 

[Adam the Lighting Guy]

Ok, got a question for you folks.

I am tuned via Wengerd, but even stock, on the 2-3 Upshift, does anyone else spin the tires under heavy throttle? My car will kick the tail out a bit and this is with 275 series PS4's.

 

[RNM]

Ok, got a question for you folks.

I am tuned via Wengerd, but even stock, on the 2-3 Upshift, does anyone else spin the tires under heavy throttle? My car will kick the tail out a bit and this is with 275 series PS4's.

Are you on stock suspension?

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