Cobb got nailed by the EPA

[sk47]

Hello; Now we at least know why he has not been seeing any "proof".
Had a student who was spitting on girls or sticking them with a pencil. He was diagnosed with terrets so ran wild with it. I borrowed the schools VHS camera and set it up in the room to use to broadcast academic team contests. Left it running during regular class and recorded this kid doing his stuff.
Casually asked the school principal to step in my classroom. Had the camera keyed up to the TV and pushed play. Before he could scurry away the principal saw what that kid was doing. As I had a planning period during lunch I got permission to have that boy eat with me in my room way from all the other kids.
I would gather him up and we would go get our lunch trays the to my room. I told him why. Funny thing happened. All of a sudden, he could control the spitting and poking just fine. Of course, his parents raised a stink and stopped me. I only got a couple weeks of peace for those girls.

Hello; I left off the punchline of this story. After that first time that principal would not come into my room at all. I tricked him into seeing the evidence only the one time.

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[sk47]

Hello; A question was asked earlier today referencing the back and forth we went thru. What does any of the recent talk have to do with the initial topic of the thread? Not much directly. Sort of logical given the way threads wander.
An alphabet agency determined an aftermarket parts supplier needed it's wings trimmed. That and similar agencies have bankrupted aftermarket parts companies. Along with edicts from the top these agencies have turned the direction of automobile manufacturing. It is yet to be seen if traditional ICE will survive.
I personally do hope ICE can continue. I do not however know the extent of damage already done. Could be too much damage is already done. Not that companies have forgotten how. More that opportunity costs may be past a tipping point. Are too many car companies too far extended to turn around? Will EV's continue to fail now that taxpayer funded financial is being withdrawn?

Lest my position be misunderstood let me state again I do not mind EV's competing in the marketplace under fair terms. No EV only sale mandates and no taxpayer monies to help mollify the price. I worked on the idea of having an EV as a second vehicle to an ICE pickup. Three major issues make the idea questionable. Cost to purchase even when incentives were to be had was the biggest issue. Even with $7500 incentive they cost too much.
Having to install a home charger was the second issue. I determined the charger will have to be around 75 to 100 feet from my breaker box. The heavy gage wire alone will cost a lot. Third thing is the fire risk. I want the EV away from my house. So a carport is the logical place.

This Cobb thing is just one small part of the anti-ICE agenda.

 

[DougS550]

They’re only some of the most respected outlets in the business world, particularly WSJ and CNBC. But do tell who is so credible in your mind.

Well these past few post are off topic for sure and isn't right for the OP who wanted help. So Im done for off topic post, my bad

 

[MAGS1]

Well these past few post are off topic for sure and isn't right for the OP who wanted help. So Im done for off topic post, my bad

My apologies as well, easy to get off topic and I should know better.

 

[MAGS1]

Sort of back on topic, just saw this. I see this as a good sign that if manufacturers are committing to things like V8’s over hybrid I6’s, that may breath life back into companies like Cobb to re-engage with support for folks like OP.

 

[wingnutt]

Holy balls…go to work for a day and miss all the fun

 

[CrazyHippie]

Hello; A while back RocketGuy3 cast doubts on a post of mine. I took some time and searched out some posts which tell the story. Even have names now so my recall is not the only thing.

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A climate scientist wanted to start a debate in academia. He set off a bigger firestorm (msn.com)

“For climate change deniers, it was confirmation of a long-held suspicion: Scientists cannot be trusted.”

“Days after publishing research that found global warming had boosted the risk of fast-growing California wildfires by 25%, scientist and lead author Patrick T. Brown announced that he’d withheld the full truth to maximize the article’s chances of being published in the journal Nature.”

“I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other than climate change in my research because it would dilute the story that prestigious journals like Nature and its rival, Science, want to tell," wrote Brown, co-director of the climate and energy team at the Breakthrough Institute, in Berkeley.”

“…he'd selected a metric and timeframe to study that weren't the most useful, but generated the largest numbers quantifying the impact of climate change.”

“To a number of observers, Brown's comments were disturbing not because they suggested that he distorted evidence, but because they call into question whether the process of scientific debate and organized skepticism is compromised more broadly.”

““The fact that a scientist would choose a particular metric to make the numbers look more impressive suggests that there is a quite unhealthy conflation within scientific papers of the scientific concerns and the policy concerns, or impact concerns,” said Daniele Fanelli, an assistant professor in research methods at Heriot-Watt University in Scotland who specializes in scientific misconduct and bias.”

“But while it’s common practice to consider climate change apart from other factors, doing so is unrealistic and results in a conclusion that’s far less meaningful, Brown said. In this case, he and his fellow researchers did not account for changes in ignition patterns and vegetation growth, both of which have worsened wildfire behavior over time, he said.”

““I knew that considering these factors would make for a more realistic and useful analysis, but I also knew that it would muddy the waters and thus make the research more difficult to publish,” Brown wrote.”

“There's a taboo against adaptation in our community, I think, because it's considered to be in conflict with mitigation,” Brown said. “It's like, 'Oh, the bad people talk about adaptation when the right solution is to focus exclusively on climate policy that reduces emissions.'"



Hello; Pretty self explainatory article. This story has already been discussed in the forum. This story give some new information. Near the end of the article are quotes from scientists trying to spin the impact of this story. I will leave those for the champions to cherry pick

Fascinating. As a scientist, I can confirm that there are professional pressures to cherry-pick data or otherwise spin or even blatantly falsify data. The pressures are most often economically linked - money is at the root. I personally refused to compromise my scientific integrity, and sometimes paid a price for that position. At other times I was rewarded for it.

With respect to climate change, Humans have had an impact, there's no doubt about that. BUT, we are part of Nature, the same as all other life. Where we go off the rails is that in our arrogance, we believe that we can control or 'fix' the climate. We can't, it's that simple (no matter how much money we spend trying). I'm hoping that our mis-guided efforts will allow us to adapt cause the climate will never stop changing.

 

[K4fxd]

With respect to climate change, Humans have had an impact, there's no doubt about that. BUT, we are part of Nature, the same as all other life. Where we go off the rails is that in our arrogance, we believe that we can control or 'fix' the climate. We can't, it's that simple (no matter how much money we spend trying). I'm hoping that our mis-guided efforts will allow us to adapt cause the climate will never stop changing.

My fear is the zealots will do something to "fix" it and destroy the earth. Something stupid like a solar shield ect...... Hell even carbon capture is possibly a world killer, plants need Co2

 

[MAGS1]

My fear is the zealots will do something to "fix" it and destroy the earth. Something stupid like a solar shield ect...... Hell even carbon capture is possibly a world killer, plants need Co2

Yep. They’ve got emissions and such pretty dialed in at this point, at least here in the US and Europe. Keep pushing and you’re probably right that they will do more harm than good

 

[RocketGuy3]

Hello; A while back RocketGuy3 cast doubts on a post of mine. I took some time and searched out some posts which tell the story. Even have names now so my recall is not the only thing.

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This is certainly an interesting story, and highlights that there is probably a bit too much parroting and fear of dissent in certain parts of the scientific community (I think this is especially true when it comes to western medicine and pharmacy). No one is suggesting you should believe everything you read or take it at face value... but this still offers no evidence that global warming is not very real and human caused. The evidence in favor of my side still abounds, and this article is just the story of one unscrupulous bit of research, not even counter-evidence.

Even the scientist here is not saying anything to suggest that climate change isn't real or didn't play a role on the fires. He's just saying he had to change the focus of his research to get published. He thinks that at this point, we need to focus more on mitigation than prevention, which is, sadly, probably true.

 

[DougS550]

This is certainly an interesting story, and highlights that there is probably a bit too much parroting and fear of dissent in certain parts of the scientific community (I think this is especially true when it comes to western medicine and pharmacy). No one is suggesting you should believe everything you read or take it at face value... but this still offers no evidence that global warming is not very real and human caused. The evidence in favor of my side still abounds, and this article is just the story of one unscrupulous bit of research, not even counter-evidence.

Even the scientist here is not saying anything to suggest that climate change isn't real or didn't play a role on the fires. He's just saying he had to change the focus of his research to get published. He thinks that at this point, we need to focus more on mitigation than prevention, which is, sadly, probably true.

I dont know why this "Rabbit Hole" Topic keeps coming up. But; you can always find an artical written by a So Called" Credibal Scientist who pedals what they are being paid to pedal. Let's not go down this road no one wants to travel on.

 

[sk47]

This is certainly an interesting story, and highlights that there is probably a bit too much parroting and fear of dissent in certain parts of the scientific community (I think this is especially true when it comes to western medicine and pharmacy). No one is suggesting you should believe everything you read or take it at face value... but this still offers no evidence that global warming is not very real and human caused. The evidence in favor of my side still abounds, and this article is just the story of one unscrupulous bit of research, not even counter-evidence.

Even the scientist here is not saying anything to suggest that climate change isn't real or didn't play a role on the fires. He's just saying he had to change the focus of his research to get published. He thinks that at this point, we need to focus more on mitigation than prevention, which is, sadly, probably true.

Hello; I started an off topic thread some time ago. I will give my reply in that thread so as to not further derail this thread.
Here isa link to that other thread.
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[RocketGuy3]

I dont know why this "Rabbit Hole" Topic keeps coming up. But; you can always find an artical written by a So Called" Credibal Scientist who pedals what they are being paid to pedal. Let's not go down this road no one wants to travel on.

So then who do you trust? Do you only believe the things you want to believe? Yes, money corrupts all, but at some point you have to be able to use your own critical thinking skills to deduce whether someone properly followed the scientific method to come to reasonable conclusions.

Also, I mean this in the friendliest way possible, but I think the word you're looking for is "peddle".

 

[MD18EcoStang]

Also, I mean this in the friendliest way possible, but I think the word you're looking for is "peddle".

Not unless he's pedaling a tricycle he was paid to pedal.

Seriously, this whole thread could probably use a bath in spell check!

So, what I understand is DOGE will be bailing out Cobb and refunding their fines??

 

[DougS550]

So then who do you trust? Do you only believe the things you want to believe? Yes, money corrupts all, but at some point you have to be able to use your own critical thinking skills to deduce whether someone properly followed the scientific method to come to reasonable conclusions.

Also, I mean this in the friendliest way possible, but I think the word you're looking for is "peddle".

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