So in other words you think the name alone is proof it will be bad. Then we're at an impasse. Obviously the name is for marketing purposes, but the need for marketing is not an indictment on any product.
Ditto. If they'd come out with it one generation sooner, I might have one instead of my Mach 1.
I don't care that you don't like the Mustang. I don't like the S650 very much either, which is why I plan to hold onto my Mach 1 for the foreseeable future. What you haven't made clear is why you think this sedan will be even worse for the Mustang brand.
I'm harping on weight because the first...
You are obstinate. Let me ask you, have you ever found yourself saying the words "that's a good point, maybe I was wrong/I didn't see it that way/you're right", either on the internet or in person? I can assure you, it won't make you look stupid. In fact, it will save you dignity.
I never said...
The point is that "more weight" has subjective implications. Would you care if it was 1 lb more? 5 lbs? Even for the practicality you gain from a proper back seat?
Honestly it was my mistake for bringing up a flawed example to begin with. With the Blackwing/Camaro, we are still comparing a...
lol "just want to win an internet argument". The irony is overwhelming coming from the archetypical internet tough guy.
And no, I don't see "proof" that it's 200 lbs heavier. If you compare the lightest spec Camaro to the heaviest spec 4BW? Maybe. But on average, it's around 100 lbs, which is...
It's so cool how you can tell people they're wrong with so much confidence on the internet.
You're right about one thing. We can prove it, and... I think I just did? Unless you're actually going to quibble about 100 lbs of crumbs in a massive touring car? Especially when the heavier one added...
Yeah, so you're assuming negative things about the car because of the name, which ultimately means you don't like the name.
Also for all intents and purposes, they weigh the same. The difference is about ~100 lbs. That is ~2.5%, or less than the weight of a single adult passenger. When you...
I'm actually very doubtful it will be heavier than a regular Mustang. If you care at all about the practicality of a usable backseat while not wanting the ugliness and size of a CUV/SUV, this should be a win-win.
Look at the CT4-V Blackwing. It's based on the Camaro platform, and despite having...
True, changing cultures and desires is certainly part of it. It was less common for young Americans to think about flying abroad for fun a few decades ago. But I still think the primary factor globally is finances. The disposable income you need to buy a new V8 Mustang or to have a second (or...
Yeah I think the real [and unfortunate] problem people are ignoring here is that the demographic who used to buy sporty coupes can, by and large, no longer afford to buy almost any new car. Let alone sporty ones that have gone up significantly in price. And if they do like fun cars and CAN...
Consumers ostensibly matter just as much today as they did then... The problem is that not many high-spending consumers today want to drive a RWD V8 coupe, but many of them still kinda like "Mustang" as a brand.
I generally buy cars with the expectation of them being lifers... Occasionally things happen that convince me (or force me) to buy something new. Those things happened in rapid succession recently, and I have a fairly new garage right now. But this is it. All of these cars have been either...
Heh, I can agree with you here... I remember after I got my Mach 1, the Mach E was already on sale and far more popular with the general population than my car. If it came up in conversation that I liked fun cars had a Mustang Mach 1, people would say something like "oh cool, I was looking at...
Shiiit... If they make a V8 Mustang sedan with a stick... Man, that's going to be tempting. Especially if they have a performance trim like the Dark Horse.
I absolutely love my Mach 1, but I was THIS CLOSE 🤏 to buying a CT4-V Blackwing instead. If the Caddy had the LT1 from the Camaro, I woulda...
Did the $750 include labor? If not, you can buy the part from the above link and just pay for labor. Many shops will let you supply your own parts and they just provide the labor, especially if the part is OEM. If your dealer won't do it, I suggest you tell them to kick rocks and find yourself a...
Yeah I think it was a combination of thinking 1) those foam blocks weighed more, and 2) there were other beefier components with denser materials that would also come out with the back bench. TIL.
Hah. This makes me feel even sillier for thinking the seats would weigh more than 30 lbs.
Looks good. Although to be honest, I'm surprised the rear seat delete only saves 30 lbs. I always just sort of figured it would be closer to a hundo or so.
Hmm, I'm not sure that's what the current market seems to be indicating. Low mileage and excellent condition for 10K under? I think those kinds of cars are going for close to MSRP... Although "highly optioned" does introduce a lot of variables. The more expensive the options, the bigger the...