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Before you reverse the tires, make sure they're not asymmetric, i.e. marked "inside" & "outside" on the sidewall.
Also, inner tread wear is usually the result of the toe setting.
Thanks, yes, I checked that they were symmetric.
And I was going mention toe but I assumed it was spec'd with toe-in, it looks like the front is spec'd at 0 but rear toe out. So maybe the wear is coming from the rear. I didn't realize toe-out is advantageous for a performance car, I really should have known that.
 
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They’ll be slick and greasy feeling. Even if you aren’t stupid you won’t be able to make an emergency maneuver comfortably. It’s not you, it’s other people and their actions that can make situations bad.
Good point. We likely won't be driving it at night when it's really cold, but it there still might be some cold mornings.
 

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Depends on how bad the camber is.
I know people running -3 degrees on the street with no real tire wear. They do like to corner.

I am running -2.25 and I have no abnormal wear.

If your tires are wearing out on the inside, check your toe.
 

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I was planning on it when I get the new tires. I just didn't think the alignment could be that bad already.
Factory alignment is hit or miss, mostly miss.

These cars are not factory camber adjustable. It's toe.
 
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Factory alignment is hit or miss, mostly miss.

These cars are not factory camber adjustable. It's toe.
Right but is the alignment off or is this normal wear due to the factory alignment settings?
 

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Depends on the tires. Some brands, I'd have to search to tell you which ones, will have internal failures, and you can ruin the tires in cold temps.

Just get all seasons and play it safe. No sense in the risk if it's easily mitigated.
 

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I would definitely use 2 sets, as summers below 40 becomes pretty like a hockey puck. Yes they will warm up a bit when drive but not enough to be safe in my opinion, and if you hit water temp will go back down and the fact our Mustang are light on the backend and high power makes this very slippery. even with summer when it rains I put my in wet/snow mode and still will have something a little wheel spin with light pedal touch.

just my opinion, sadly for me the mustang will stay in the garage from November to April
 
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Depends on the tires. Some brands, I'd have to search to tell you which ones, will have internal failures, and you can ruin the tires in cold temps.

Just get all seasons and play it safe. No sense in the risk if it's easily mitigated.
I would definitely use 2 sets, as summers below 40 becomes pretty like a hockey puck. Yes they will warm up a bit when drive but not enough to be safe in my opinion, and if you hit water temp will go back down and the fact our Mustang are light on the backend and high power makes this very slippery. even with summer when it rains I put my in wet/snow mode and still will have something a little wheel spin with light pedal touch.

just my opinion, sadly for me the mustang will stay in the garage from November to April
Thanks, makes sense, I guess I'll go this route, better safe than sorry. I just got a new jack that should make changes easier; maybe now I can finally pretend I need an impact wrench!

I have been impressed with the wet/snow mode though what little I tried it. But it ought to be the first mode after normal, not good to have to go through sport+ and track mode to get to it.
 

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I'm in northern Nevada, so our weather is similar to yours. My recommendation is to save money, time and storage space. Get yourself a set of good all season tires (Michelin AS4 or Continental DWS06+) and a proper alignment and you won't be sorry. I did this (and new wheels) when mine had only 100 miles on it, and it's been over 20,000 miles of nothing but happy motoring since then.
 
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I'm in northern Nevada, so our weather is similar to yours. My recommendation is to save money, time and storage space. Get yourself a set of good all season tires (Michelin AS4 or Continental DWS06+) and a proper alignment and you won't be sorry. I did this (and new wheels) when mine had only 100 miles on it, and it's been over 20,000 miles of nothing but happy motoring since then.
I was actually just thinking about this on my morning dog walk. I moved from northern Utah to southern Utah so it's a little warmer than you though. My original plan was to track the car a little. But then I moved far away from any track, so I will probably never do that. So for just street driving I don't need something too aggressive, wider all seasons would probably provide the extra traction I am looking for. I ran DSW on my car up north, because the weather was so crazy; we could get snow anytime between October and April, but also 70 degrees in February.

So I'll think about it. My concern now is how well do all seasons hold up in 110+ degree heat? Seems like they might get a little greasy.
 

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Right but is the alignment off or is this normal wear due to the factory alignment settings?
If the factory did the alignment properly it won't wear tires
 

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I was actually just thinking about this on my morning dog walk. I moved from northern Utah to southern Utah so it's a little warmer than you though...
 

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I got caught in the snow a few times with Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my GT350. At the time, I wasn't aware of any warnings about using them in the cold other than lack of traction. I never experienced any damage to them. I was just a little careful and it was no problem.

Yes, if it's cold or snowy/icy - leave more room to stop, slow down, etc. Common sense stuff.

I typically buy a set of all-seasons for the 20-30 degree weather and use the summer tires in summer. My Camaro daily runs either all seasons or snow tires just because the all seasons do better in heavy rain. But my experience is the PSS worked fine during cold weather in a pinch, and they were mostly pretty good in rain. Obviously, different tire formulations will give different results, which is why I named the specific summer tires that worked for me rather than saying in general all of them are fine.
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