Wind chill temps have no impact on tires. Tires can only get as cold as the air temp.
I don't think anyone is calling you an idiot at all. Consensus is winter tires are best for winter weather but thinking that a Summer tire is somehow undriveable in cold or winter weather is not the case at all. Is it the wise choice? No. Can it be done? Yes. Like I said I am on the 4th set of Summer tires on my GTO. That is 8 winters now. Gone through 2 sets of Summer only on our G8GT and finally switched to all seasons. No problems with those as well. They suck in snow but I have never seen 1 single crack in ANY of those sets of tires. This is after years of winters at sub freezing temps. And out of those 6 sets of tires, all were different brands including one cheapo set of tires from Malaysia that if any tire was going to crack it would have been those.
Switch locations with me and I'd bet you will change your tune. ;)
same goes for bike riding weather...so i'll stick with here
It appears you think you're driving experience with summer tires is a definitive source.... but Pirelli would not put the temperature warning in their warranty if the cracking had never occurred, they are covering their ass against a possible law suit. Honestly, if a Ford dealer lets someone drive off the lot in sub 45 degree temps without warning them about the tire's listed limitations, and that person subsequently has an accident or a blowout, they could be held liable for any damages.
I will drive these all winter. If I wrap it around a pole or put it in the ditch you'll be the first to know. ;)
I never said anything about my experience, BTW, and if you want to ignore the advice of the manufacturer who has far greater experience than you feel free.... Headline... Free Agent wrecks new mustang testing limits of summer tires in winter conditions! Have fun!
I am just sharing my experiences. When its cold and when there is snow on the ground I drive like there is an egg under the pedal, no need to "test any limits". Other people do the same and get by. Is it optimal? Hell no. Is it possible? Hell yes. I will be just fine. My work is also very flexible when it comes to missing for inclement weather and in those worst cases I don't have to show up. Everyone of course doesn't have that freedom. Funny I see a lot of people with 4wd and AWD getting into winter accidents because they have an overconfidence in their vehicle and push it beyond its limits. Summer tires in winter lowers those limits considerably. I have not claimed the contrary at all. Feel what you need to feel but don't try to belittle my experiences and that of others. Its good to hear ALL sides of a story not just one. If someone is concerned, they should get winter tires. If you feel experienced enough, can be overly slow and cautious and think your situation warrants that you could try summer tires in winter, you shouldn't be frightened that the world is going to end. You should be prepared for the consequences. I am. Come this Spring I will make sure to post back up in this thread as more proof. No need to discuss this further as far as I'm concerned, we will have to agree to disagree.I never said anything about my experience, BTW, and if you want to ignore the advice of the manufacturer who has far greater experience than you feel free.... Headline... Free Agent wrecks new mustang testing limits of summer tires in winter conditions! Have fun!
I'm cool with whatever you or anyone else decides to do, it's all about discussing different points of view, no slight or offense was intended.I am just sharing my experiences. When its cold and when there is snow on the ground I drive like there is an egg under the pedal. Other people do the same and get by. Is it optimal? Hell no. Is it possible? Hell yes. I will be just fine. My work is also very flexible when it comes to missing for inclement weather and in those worst cases I don't have to show up. Everyone of course doesn't have that freedom. Funny I see a lot of people with 4wd and AWD getting into winter accidents because they have an overconfidence in their vehicle and push it beyond its limits. Summer tires in winter lowers those limits considerably. I have not claimed the contrary at all. Feel what you need to feel but don't try to belittle my experiences and that of others. Its good to hear ALL sides of a story not just one. If someone is concerned, they should get winter tires. If you feel experienced enough, can be overly slow and cautious and think your situation warrants that you could try summer tires in winter, you shouldn't be frightened that the world is going to end. You should be prepared for the consequences. I am. No need to discuss this further as far as I'm concerned, we will have to agree to disagree.
Understood, I mean no offense as well. If someone feels that they don't want to take the risk, then by all means get winter tires. I'm just pointing out that it can be done. Risk is involved but frankly just driving on the highway with everyone else is a risk in itself. ;) Keep safe out there and yes if these tires do crack or whatever I will report my findings for sure.
Risk is involved but frankly just driving on the highway with everyone else is a risk in itself. ;) Keep safe out there and yes if these tires do crack or whatever I will report my findings for sure.
