Cobb got nailed by the EPA

[SheepDog]

My educated guess is that airplanes are 10 to 13% of that. But gotta put bubba in jail for hot roddin his truck

For sure. Air Travel plus Air freight contribute a ton of emissions, but a plane is more efficient at moving a single passenger than a car is, meaning that a single aircraft with 200 people on it, emits less pollution than 200 cars, or even 100. The break even is when a car has 4 passengers in it, removing 3 cars from the road and traveling the same distance as the plane. Hard to quantify if those passnegers each weigh 150 pounds, vs each of them weighing 250+ like the average American, or all of the crap they bring along.

meanwhile, the production of concrete alone emits more polution than the entire transportation industry combined.

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[markayash]

I think what he is trying to say is that the ev vehicles consume electric and that electric is produced by burning fossil fuels among other sources. Then you have nuclear power producing which produces major environmental hazards of their own like contaminated nuclear waste. With that said, I don't know what the answer is, but I'm not convinced ev are any better for the environment when looking at the big picture. Idk. Thoughts?

My thinking is remember the CFL light bulb and how it was " super great" until the LED bulbs came out? That is what I think will happen to all these electric car..Some new technology ( no clue what ) and all of a sudden " EV JUNK"

 

[SheepDog]

you have nuclear power producing which produces major environmental hazards

The main environmental hazard with traditional Nuclear plants is that they use water to cool the reactor, which isn't efficient and because water is very bad at storing energy (only has to be raised to 212 degrees F before it changes phase) The pressure from that reaction is the real issue. This is what happened to Chernobyl and Fukushima. The cooling systems malfunctioned/got damaged, which then boils the water around the core, which then explodes do to the rapid expansion of the steam.

There is a new technology called SFR that uses liquid sodium instead of water.

Natrium reactor-
Uses liquid sodium to cover the reactor core and transfer heat for power production. The sodium has a boiling point that's eight times higher than water, which makes the plant safer. The heated sodium transfers thermal energy to molten salt, which is then stored in a large tank to act as a thermal battery. And because it doesn't need a constant source of cold water, it can be built anywhere. A company called TerraPower is building one in Wyoming right now, on the site of an old coal plant

Nuclear power production really is the "greenest" option

 

[GJarrett]

What was the subject again?

 

[SheepDog]

What was the subject again?

The EPA ramming your hole with a sand paper condom because they don't know which way is up

 

[shogun32]

even greener is a thorium reactor. from coal.

 

[shogun32]

What was the subject again?

COBRA!

Oh they know which way is up, and to turn the sand paper inside-out for maximum comfort and blood-letting.

 

[SheepDog]

thorium reactor.

Thorium is the fuel used to create the fissile material used in the reactor, but it still gets cooled in the traditional way

 

[Epiphany]

Great discussion. Good to see people aren't as gullible as the government wants you to be. Carry on!

 

[shogun32]

Thorium is the fuel used to create the fissile material used in the reactor, but it still gets cooled in the traditional way

indeed. Somewhere I have the paper that describes one of the massive benefits of even a water-cooled thorium reactor is the byproducts are far safer and it doesn't require weeks and months (and the grid-power to run pumps) to cool the (spent or otherwise) rods down.

about 50 miles from me is the Lake Anna nuc plant. It's built on a lake. The problem is if the reactor is shut down, the grid had better be there to keep the water in the spent fuel pool. Otherwise it's Chernobyl light and you will be able to buy a house in northern virginia for a dime.

 

[GregO]

It’s simple.
Cobb broke the law.
No one was jailed and they’re allowed to continue operating their business.
They agreed to a fine equal to 50% of one years revenue.
Considering this goes back to 2015 I’d say they got off cheap and were granted 3 payment installments.

 

[K4fxd]

Cobb broke the law

Nope Cobb sold tunes and parts for off road race cars. What the customer does with it after purchase is not Cobbs doing.

This is a very slippery slope. Should Ford be responsible if you leave a C&C and wipe out 4 spectators? Should Ford and Jim Beam be responsible if you drive drunk and kill someone?

If manufacturers are going to be held responsible for misuse of their products, no one will make consumer products. If they do the liability insurance they buy will be so expensive a box of nails will cost 10,000 dollars.

 

[shogun32]

. If they do the liability insurance they buy will be so expensive a box of nails will cost 10,000 dollars.

just wait till they find out you can by 22SR to shoot nails out of a nail gun, when you're putting new shingles on your roof. Talk about having an elevated position and wide field of fire!

Which can be bought at terrorist supply houses known as Lowes and Home Depot!!

And your local car dealer sells machines that will maim and murder dozens if you drive past the barriers into a "pedestrian only" part of town at high speed and mow down those too slow to dodge the inbound. And have you heard!? You can rent a 20ft truck from Enterprise or Penske without a 5 day waiting period! Oh the humanity! Will nobody think of the children!

 

[markayash]

What was the subject again?

Can the mustang run on nuclear power?

 

[K4fxd]

Can the mustang run on nuclear power?

As soon as Doc gets back from the future and brings the Mr.Fusion.

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