Mach 1 value in coming years ?

[IPOGT]

I think Mach 1's in 20+ years will envoke the same emotion as when I see a clean Mach 1/Saleen/cobra from the 90's for sale on various sites for 20-30k. That's cool.

Doug demuro will do a review on the lowest mileage one he can find and hoovie will buy the highest milesge

If it's worth it to somebody they will pay it.

The rest will be clapped out examples sitting at buy here pay here spots. Enjoy the car.

These feelings come up often cause I'm trying to justify buying a good example of a 98-02 trans am ws6. And damn it I wish I had done that first 10 years ago.

I had a 2001 WS-6 ram air T/A in Pewter. That car had one electrical issue after the next, was built like crap, handled and sounded great and was very fast. And the flip up headlights always malfunctioned…..constantly. Usually resulting in one or the other headlight being stuck in the up position. I think the fenders were plastic. Like Tupperware plastic LOL.

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[The Demon]

They do kind of go together though. A stock vehicle with 100k miles will not carry the same value as a stock vehicle with say 1,000 miles. So mileage is part of the overall equation.

But, to directly answer the OP question, stock will almost always carry a higher value than a modded car. Unless you start getting into restomod and all that, but that’s a different animal altogether

I bought my M1 as a weekend car. I put 1700 miles on it in one year. My GT is my DD and has been a rock. It’s tuned and fun. I love taking the M1 out on the weekends when it’s not raining and having a blast in it. I would love to drive it every day and if the GT ever craps out I will. But for right now its my weekend fun car. As far as modding goes I’m not touching any of the engine. I am going to add side louvers like I have on the GT in the spring as well as finally putting on the HP spoiler at the same time. Other than that that’s it. And you guys have made me think I’m gonna drive it more.

 

[MAGS1]

I bought my M1 as a weekend car. I put 1700 miles on it in one year. My GT is my DD and has been a rock. It’s tuned and fun. I love taking the M1 out on the weekends when it’s not raining and having a blast in it. I would love to drive it every day and if the GT ever craps out I will. But for right now its my weekend fun car. As far as modding goes I’m not touching any of the engine. I am going to add side louvers like I have on the GT in the spring as well as finally putting on the HP spoiler at the same time. Other than that that’s it. And you guys have made me think I’m gonna drive it more.

Nothing wrong with keeping these types of cars as weekend toys or even fresh in the wrapper. Everyone sees value differently. I personally value the time behind the wheel, tomorrow is promised to no one (at least that’s my mindset).

Cosmetic mods I don’t think has a big impact on value, especially if you have the stock parts and they’re easily reversible. Tuning and that type of stuff will have more of an impact. But, if you mod for your own enjoyment and future value be damned, I personally think that’s money well spent. Enjoy your cars however you see fit for you!

 

[The Demon]

I personally value the time behind the wheel, tomorrow is promised to no one (at least that’s my mindset).

This is the same thing to me. I drive my cars and I drive them hard and I drive them for fun. Always have. Anything can happen on any given day so enjoy them now. That’s like I said I’m gonna drive the M1 more while I have it and still can. Cheers.

 

[UpACurb]

Never had a girlfriend I never touched to keep her more “fresh” /save her for the next guy to enjoy and I treat my cars the same way…

while I appreciate no mileage vehicles and the memories they induce … not my thing

as far as values… there are some VERY expensive 93 cobras and fox body Saleens on bring a trailer …

I mean this Saleen sold for 226k.. yes 226k

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-ford-saleen-mustang-sc-convertible-2/

 

[derklink]

Never had a girlfriend I never touched to keep her more “fresh” /save her for the next guy to enjoy and I treat my cars the same way…

while I appreciate no mileage vehicles and the memories they induce … not my thing

as far as values… there are some VERY expensive 93 cobras and fox body Saleens on bring a trailer …

I mean this Saleen sold for 226k.. yes 226k

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-ford-saleen-mustang-sc-convertible-2/

Somebody paid for those kids' college. Insane.

 

[WItoTX]

Yes it will be worth more. If you mothball it, cover it, tuck it in a corner, and never drive it for 30 or 40 years.

Unless you are willing to do that, it will depreciate like every other car out there.

 

[Onewolf]

Yes it will be worth more. If you mothball it, cover it, tuck it in a corner, and never drive it for 30 or 40 years.

Unless you are willing to do that, it will depreciate like every other car out there.

That implies buying the car as an investment. As many people have pointed out, it would be a terrible investment compared to investing the same money in the stock market.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Since the v8 Mach 1 is being discontinued, are they going to be worth a LOT more untouched ? I know the muscle cars of the past sell better than ones that have been modified. Numbers matching and what the VIns say is a major issue.

I think it depends on the mods. But in general, no, I don't think an untouched car will be worth A LOT more. That said, unmodified cars are almost always more desirable on the secondary market. So take that for what you will.

Some of you really got carried away with the drive vs investment talk.

 

[Charlemagne]

The hard currency is smiles per miles. Cars are never an investment. Maybe cars like Ford GT and such. Keeping value of nice pieces of limited editions to some degree in 20+ years is another thing but that's long away. Who knows if these cars will be desirable still, with all that's happening, people aging. It is valuable to you, that's the only thing take makes sense.

 

[Cobra Jet]

A S550 Mach 1 will only be “valuable” if:

It’s totally mothballed right off the delivery truck. This means it has not gone through ANY Dealer Prep, it’s still covered in plastics, it still has all of the factory decals/stickers/labels secured to the body/interior.

It will have ALL documentation such as the original Manufacturer Title (Ford Certificate of Origin), Ford Build Certificate docs, Owners kit; build sheet, etc.

It will have absolutely no driven miles or in some instances, accrued miles below 50.

It will not have been retitled from the Manufacturer's title.

It will be a low Ford Build number and have the docs to back that up.

Does all of the above that sound insane? Yes.

But THAT Mach 1 will command THE highest valuation in the future. That’s the epitome of “mothballed” and “valuable”.

Mach 1’s that are driven, have seen more than 2-3 owners, have mileage, are modded, are missing the owners kit or items from the original kit, have had minor issues etc - they’re all just “drivers” and just another Mach 1. They will not command 60’s Mach 1 prices EVER.

The problem with Ford’s S550 “Limited Edition” Mustangs is this:
They produced too many for multiple years and were not really limited as far as the build counts.

The ONLY S550 that was and is a true “Limited Edition” is the genuine 50th Anniversary S550 that was limited to only 1,964 units that’s it. There were far less of this S550 made than ANY “Limited Edition” after it as far as by year and total model type. As of today, less than 1,964 exist as we have been tracking them in another thread in the 50th LE sub-forum. These will command $$$ as years pass, because by statistics, many were daily drivers, many have changed multiple hands, many have been modded, and in another 10-15 years, I predict there will be less than 3/4 of the production run remaining.

Again even with those 50th LE’s, a total mothballed example will be the one to command top $$$ evaluation and monetary gains over any that have been driven and/or modified.

IMO, Ford should have capped all unique S550 production models to 3,000 a year. The S550 Bullitt, Shelby’s, and the Mach 1’s were over produced as LE’s. Far too many which saturated the market. It doesn’t mean that all will not have a future collectible value, it just means there are far too many fighting for the same “hey look at me” spot for buyers to put out big $$$.

Your Mach 1 would have to be totally unique in some way and set apart from others of the same color/options for it to be really valuable. By not modding it is one way, because many are modding/tracking them.

Many people today think their rides will be 6-figure or 8-figure collectibles in 10 years - like their 60’s counterparts. The only reason the 60’s Muscle Cars make bank is due to the rarity of what remains today. All of those cars back then were totally disposable and no one was thinking of “collecting” them, mothballing them or never driving them to cash out at a later date. There’s few remaining in the world today because not only were they disposables, they were raced into the ground, they had poor to no metal prep and therefore rotted away, the gas crisis of the 70’s caused many to abandon and scrap the “guzzlers”, and basically no one cared - it was just a method to getting from A to B.

When you have over supply and no real demand, prices will just lay flat, even for something that can be considered a “collectible”.

I say enjoy the car, don’t look at it as an investment ever …. And even so for those that have mothballed versions - we have all seen, read and heard the stories of the guys who mothball cars or have a large collection with the intent that they’re going to cash out big…. Problem is, they DIE before ever getting to enjoy or cash out - because they kept hoping that someday, they’re going to rake it in big, but now their prized vehicles are being diluted and sold off for others to enjoy both the cash and the cars…. LMAO….

 

[AZ_Ryan]

A S550 Mach 1 will only be “valuable” if:

It’s totally mothballed right off the delivery truck. This means it has not gone through ANY Dealer Prep, it’s still covered in plastics, it still has all of the factory decals/stickers/labels secured to the body/interior.

It will have ALL documentation such as the original Manufacturer Title (Ford Certificate of Origin), Ford Build Certificate docs, Owners kit; build sheet, etc.

It will have absolutely no driven miles or in some instances, accrued miles below 50.

It will not have been retitled from the Manufacturer's title.

It will be a low Ford Build number and have the docs to back that up.

Does all of the above that sound insane? Yes.

But THAT Mach 1 will command THE highest valuation in the future. That’s the epitome of “mothballed” and “valuable”.

Mach 1’s that are driven, have seen more than 2-3 owners, have mileage, are modded, are missing the owners kit or items from the original kit, have had minor issues etc - they’re all just “drivers” and just another Mach 1. They will not command 60’s Mach 1 prices EVER.

The problem with Ford’s S550 “Limited Edition” Mustangs is this:
They produced too many for multiple years and were not really limited as far as the build counts.

The ONLY S550 that was and is a true “Limited Edition” is the genuine 50th Anniversary S550 that was limited to only 1,964 units that’s it. There were far less of this S550 made than ANY “Limited Edition” after it as far as by year and total model type. As of today, less than 1,964 exist as we have been tracking them in another thread in the 50th LE sub-forum. These will command $$$ as years pass, because by statistics, many were daily drivers, many have changed multiple hands, many have been modded, and in another 10-15 years, I predict there will be less than 3/4 of the production run remaining.

Again even with those 50th LE’s, a total mothballed example will be the one to command top $$$ evaluation and monetary gains over any that have been driven and/or modified.

IMO, Ford should have capped all unique S550 production models to 3,000 a year. The S550 Bullitt, Shelby’s, and the Mach 1’s were over produced as LE’s. Far too many which saturated the market. It doesn’t mean that all will not have a future collectible value, it just means there are far too many fighting for the same “hey look at me” spot for buyers to put out big $$$.

Your Mach 1 would have to be totally unique in some way and set apart from others of the same color/options for it to be really valuable. By not modding it is one way, because many are modding/tracking them.

Many people today think their rides will be 6-figure or 8-figure collectibles in 10 years - like their 60’s counterparts. The only reason the 60’s Muscle Cars make bank is due to the rarity of what remains today. All of those cars back then were totally disposable and no one was thinking of “collecting” them, mothballing them or never driving them to cash out at a later date. There’s few remaining in the world today because not only were they disposables, they were raced into the ground, they had poor to no metal prep and therefore rotted away, the gas crisis of the 70’s caused many to abandon and scrap the “guzzlers”, and basically no one cared - it was just a method to getting from A to B.

When you have over supply and no real demand, prices will just lay flat, even for something that can be considered a “collectible”.

I say enjoy the car, don’t look at it as an investment ever …. And even so for those that have mothballed versions - we have all seen, read and heard the stories of the guys who mothball cars or have a large collection with the intent that they’re going to cash out big…. Problem is, they DIE before ever getting to enjoy or cash out - because they kept hoping that someday, they’re going to rake it in big, but now their prized vehicles are being diluted and sold off for others to enjoy both the cash and the cars…. LMAO….

You should probably re-read the OPs question. He not asking if it's an investment. He asking if it worth more unmodified.

 

[young at heart]

You should probably re-read the OPs question. He not asking if it's an investment. He asking if it worth more unmodified.

EXACTLY!!

Proving once again that it’s a lot easier to post what one considers an intelligent sounding answer if you just ignore the actual question in favor of bloviating.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

EXACTLY!!

Proving once again that it’s a lot easier to post what one considers an intelligent sounding answer if you just ignore the actual question in favor of bloviating.

It was one hell of 12 paragraph post considering he doesnt own a M1 and didn't read the question.

 

[MAGS1]

It was one hell of 12 paragraph post considering he doesnt own a M1 and didn't read the question.

OP’s question does imply longer term hold value though. He references older muscle cars in his original post. I guess the original post should be clarified as to whether OP is asking about values in the somewhat near term or longer term, with longer term implying investment. Either way, the answer would likely be the same, stock is your best bet to get the best price.

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