HPDE and Track Events

[resto-sauce]

If you have AT transmission, your situation is even

The part about the 911 that’s special is all of the weight in the rear. It’s beyond special in my opinion. There is no better feeling than being able to put the pedal to the floor just before apexing a corner and having zero worry about losing your ass end into a wall. They just flat out go.
In regards to keeping both, I could keep both, but the Mustang just does not get driven.
After I found my V8 daily (IS500) for hauling the kids, and now the 911 for track, life is good. The 5.0 Lexus V8 is absolutely gorgeous sounding with a valved exhaust.

Did a track day yesterday, I don’t have to worry about losing the rear anymore like this guy did

I don't understand the point of 911 advertisement. If we can afford 911s we would not be in this forum lol.

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[Ewheels]

I don't understand the point of 911 advertisement. If we can afford 911s we would not be in this forum lol.

He was a Mustang guy before. He was just sharing his experience in terms of cooling if you read further back.
I have no issues with looking at pictures of 911s anyway

 

[resto-sauce]

He was a Mustang guy before. He was just sharing his experience in terms of cooling if you read further back.
I have no issues with looking at pictures of 911s anyway

I get that, but everyone knows 911s, caymans, m4s, rs5s even GOLF Rs have zero cooling issues.

All porsche guys at the track talk about their times and seconds.
All mustang guys at track talk about cooling lol.

 

[resto-sauce]

I get that, but everyone knows 911s, caymans, m4s, rs5s even GOLF Rs have zero cooling issues.

All porsche guys at the track talk about their times and seconds.
All mustang guys at track talk about cooling lol.

thats said I do not think oil cooler will help me. I better sell this crap and buy a cayman and leave this forum lol just kiddin

 

[gone_n_60]

I just logged in for the first time in a long time to post my 2020 GT PP1 for sale. I spent quite some time here trying to get it right for track, and gave up. Then built a 2020 992 911S, which is a monster. Most said I wouldn’t overheat the PP1 since I was a novice driver, but I overheated the Diff, Trans, and Oil the first day out. I did aftermarket Mishimoto oil cooler, trans cooler, BG diff fluid and wrap, and it made it much better, but not perfect. I was as fast as my 911 buddy (997 built for track) but only for a few laps before I had to back off.
If you’re serious about getting into track, I’d recommend the Mach1 and save the headaches I went through, and money. I’ll never get my money back, which I wasn’t expecting to - just wish I went Mach1 from the start.
This is how I drove the Mustang last year on track to give you an idea skill level wise for overheating (of course track and temps will vary) I’m much more advanced now in the 911.
I have a ton of Mustang track videos - 06blacktaco on YouTube.


If I get really low balled on the sale of the Mustang, I’ll have some track goodies up for sale that would get you started.
19x10 Squared Apex SM10’s with a used set of 285/35/19 GY SuperCar3’s, along with a brand new full set of SuperCar 3’s.
Brand new Steeda 2-Pc front/rear rotors, Bear front Rotors, GLOC race pads, possibly a bunch of Steeda bracing parts if I feel like removing (K brace, front sway, rear sway, front upper brace).

nice, what track is that? looks nice

 

[gone_n_60]

The warranty isn't necessarily out of the window, they'd have to prove the track day broke whatever broke and it would have to break on the track. If the part were to break on the street then I would just not tell them its been to the track. They'd never be the wiser lol! If the PP1 radiator is sufficient enough to where I could box it and throw in a cool down lap every once in a while, I would be okay with that.

Why would Ford not warranty a failure of a Mustang just because it was on the track, legally and properly maintained? The car has Normal, Sport+, Track and Drag modes. The Mustang manual states that Track and Drag mode should only be used on a track or drag strip not on the road. That's how Ford built the car and they warranty it for any mechanical failures. I've had my GT at the local Ford dealers for warranty work and they know it goes on the track. Hint big old roll bar on a convertible. Nobody has ever given me crap about tracking it.

 

[Jstang23]

Why would Ford not warranty a failure of a Mustang just because it was on the track, legally and properly maintained? The car has Normal, Sport+, Track and Drag modes. The Mustang manual states that Track and Drag mode should only be used on a track or drag strip not on the road. That's how Ford built the car and they warranty it for any mechanical failures. I've had my GT at the local Ford dealers for warranty work and they know it goes on the track. Hint big old roll bar on a convertible. Nobody has ever given me crap about tracking it.

Actually you're right, Ford will not void the warranty if the car broke while on track. However it does say that if the vehicle had non OEM equipment on it while it failed then it would be voided. Obviously ford could swing this whatever way they choose to void pretty much everything. So I guess as long as your stock or mostly stock they won't give you any issues

 

[luc]

I get that, but everyone knows 911s, caymans, m4s, rs5s even GOLF Rs have zero cooling issues.

All porsche guys at the track talk about their times and seconds.
All mustang guys at track talk about cooling lol.

Not true, I have a manual Cayman s and was getting way too hot on track
Solution was to add the 3rd/center radiator that come on some Porsche
And I was far from being the only one to have this issue

 

[luc]

Actually you're right, Ford will not void the warranty if the car broke while on track. However it does say that if the vehicle had non OEM equipment on it while it failed then it would be voided. Obviously ford could swing this whatever way they choose to void pretty much everything. So I guess as long as your stock or mostly stock they won't give you any issues

It’s really depending on the desler

 

[Rodpwnz]

Not true, I have a manual Cayman s and was getting way too hot on track
Solution was to add the 3rd/center radiator that come on some Porsche
And I was far from being the only one to have this issue

What year Cayman S? Seems like quick and easy fix to just throw on an extra radiator and be done with cooling mods.

My ideal cooling list would include:
1. A10 trans cooler (mishi kit or setrab custom)
2. Trans thermostatic bypass and new external thermostat with custom lines
3. Bigger radiator than PP (fluidyne 3 pass)
4. OIl cooler (Harrop kit or setrab custom)
5. Custom ducting
6. Full Hood louvers from racelouvers
7. Track day temps under 90F ambient
8. heat wrap exhaust near diff, and maybe upgrade diff oil

 

[gone_n_60]

Actually you're right, Ford will not void the warranty if the car broke while on track. However it does say that if the vehicle had non OEM equipment on it while it failed then it would be voided. Obviously ford could swing this whatever way they choose to void pretty much everything. So I guess as long as your stock or mostly stock they won't give you any issues

In my case then, no issues unless non Ford springs could mess up my transmission.

 

[tosha]

All mustang guys at track talk about cooling lol.

Nah, they all pretend they have no idea what a CHT is.

 

[Hack]

The part about the 911 that’s special is all of the weight in the rear. It’s beyond special in my opinion. There is no better feeling than being able to put the pedal to the floor just before apexing a corner and having zero worry about losing your ass end into a wall. They just flat out go.
In regards to keeping both, I could keep both, but the Mustang just does not get driven.
After I found my V8 daily (IS500) for hauling the kids, and now the 911 for track, life is good. The 5.0 Lexus V8 is absolutely gorgeous sounding with a valved exhaust.

Wow, the new 911s are big! I like the Porsche brand in general, but my budget is Mustang.

And all you guys should know that my C5 Z06 got hot on track really quickly as well. So it isn't just Mustangs.

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