HPDE and Track Events

[luc]

I mean....if I could afford a Porsche, I'd ditch the Mustang too

I don’t know, i have both !!!

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[Ewheels]

I don’t know, i have both !!!

Apologies in advance for completely derailing this thread but if Ford made a smaller, lighter version of the Mustang with the same power:weight, I'd be in heaven.
V8 noises - check
Nimble - check
Cheap and easy to work on - check

If someone made a 2023 C6Z, I'd buy that sh** it a heart beat.

 

[TundraOnKings]

Apologies in advance for completely derailing this thread but if Ford made a smaller, lighter version of the Mustang with the same power:weight, I'd be in heaven.
V8 noises - check
Nimble - check
Cheap and easy to work on - check

If someone made a 2023 C6Z, I'd buy that sh** it a heart beat.

The part about the 911 that’s special is all of the weight in the rear. It’s beyond special in my opinion. There is no better feeling than being able to put the pedal to the floor just before apexing a corner and having zero worry about losing your ass end into a wall. They just flat out go.
In regards to keeping both, I could keep both, but the Mustang just does not get driven.
After I found my V8 daily (IS500) for hauling the kids, and now the 911 for track, life is good. The 5.0 Lexus V8 is absolutely gorgeous sounding with a valved exhaust.

Did a track day yesterday, I don’t have to worry about losing the rear anymore like this guy did

 

[EFI]

In regards to keeping both, I could keep both, but the Mustang just does not get driven.
After I found my V8 daily (IS500) for hauling the kids, and now the 911 for track, life is good.

I mean when you have a $200,000 budget for a nice daily AND a dedicated track car, who in their right mind would keep a Mustang?

 

[luc]

I mean when you have a $200,000 budget for a nice daily AND a dedicated track car, who in their right mind would keep a Mustang?

Don’t agree with that, I always had or have nice cars,jaguar, Porsche, Viper , etc, but I always had or have a Mustang. Love the style and the the “Americaness” of it
Both as street and track cars
The one below being my all time favorite. Started as a dd in the early 80 to a full out race car for many years

 

[TundraOnKings]

I mean when you have a $200,000 budget for a nice daily AND a dedicated track car, who in their right mind would keep a Mustang?

If we didn’t have 6 vehicles, I’d trade the Mustang in on a GT350 just for the joyous sound of the Voodoo and manual trans. The wife would kill me though. I really did love the Mustang GT, it is a really good car and they are very capable. As mentioned, if you think you might track frequently, I’d just go Mach1 from the beginning so you have all the factory coolers and a tad bump in HP.

 

[Ewheels]

Yeaaahh the Mustang checked all my boxes at the time of purchase and was great when it was my only car but now that I have a commuter, I really only enjoy the Mustang for its more "sports car" qualities but a more true sports car like a Corvette or 911 would do that a whole lot better.
Where I'm at in life now, I really have no need for a "Jack of all trades" GT car. Not big enough for a family car but too big to be a good track car.

That being said, it's much cheaper to just keep what I have than start over with a new track car platform.

 

[Traffic22]

The part about the 911 that’s special is all of the weight in the rear. It’s beyond special in my opinion. There is no better feeling than being able to put the pedal to the floor just before apexing a corner and having zero worry about losing your ass end into a wall. They just flat out go.
In regards to keeping both, I could keep both, but the Mustang just does not get driven.
After I found my V8 daily (IS500) for hauling the kids, and now the 911 for track, life is good. The 5.0 Lexus V8 is absolutely gorgeous sounding with a valved exhaust.

Did a track day yesterday, I don’t have to worry about losing the rear anymore like this guy did

Holy overdriving the car Batman. You could see for 4 turns he would be done soon.

 

[slowdown]

Vented hood.

 

[TundraOnKings]

Agreed! I’d still op for an S550. I almost went with a G80 M3 as my daily vs the IS500 because of the great numbers/specs, but the G80 was stuck in the middle. It wasn’t a good track car, and it wasn’t a good daily. It rode (what I feel) harsher than my 911S, and way worse than the Mustang…. And drove like a sedan (which it was) and was not comfortable…..and the V6, was possibly the worst sounding engine I’ve ever driven. They can track a decent one-lap wonder time for what they are, but not for long, they aren’t designed for much more than that if you read the forums and what’s required to keep them on track for 30+ min.
I was not impressed.
The new M2, which I just passed up an allocation for, that’s what I’m more interested in. I just don’t know how it would fit into our car family. My 911 track buddy has one that’s going to deliver soon (as his 2nd home, non track car) so we plan on running it through the ringers to see how it holds up vs our track 911 cars.
I still think the Mach1 is an absolute killer of a deal. Whenever I see the FJG colored ones, I try to say hi and give them the nod. :-)
Definitely have a soft spot and respect for what they are. If I could own everything, I’d keep one of those next to a GT350R in avalanche gray.

 

[resto-sauce]

For those on this thread that track their cars 2-3 times a year, does the PP radiator make a big difference from the stock GT radiator? I am trying to decide between upgrading to the PP one or just sealing the current stock radiator.

The pp radiator (with procharger stage 2 kit) gave me 266F cylinder head temp warning on Sebring while outside was 93F.

So had to pull over and rest for 20 mins to cool down. then had to keep it on higher gear which made the car drive lame, slower.

I got a performance radiator from mishimoto.

they say this

• 77-percent increase in coolant capacity over the stock performance package radiator
• 26-percent increase in coolant surface area (tubes) over the stock performance package radiator
• 55-percent increase in air surface area (fins) over the stock performance package radiator

So my steps

1- radiator upgrade
2- track and test
3- trackspec hood louvers install (engineers made sure the engine bay traps the heat lol)
4- track and test
5- oil cooler install
6- track and test

 

[tosha]

The pp radiator (with procharger stage 2 kit) gave me 266F cylinder head temp warning on Sebring while outside was 93F.

So had to pull over and rest for 20 mins to cool down. then had to keep it on higher gear which made the car drive lame, slower.

I got a performance radiator from mishimoto.

they say this

• 77-percent increase in coolant capacity over the stock performance package radiator
• 26-percent increase in coolant surface area (tubes) over the stock performance package radiator
• 55-percent increase in air surface area (fins) over the stock performance package radiator

So my steps

1- radiator upgrade
2- track and test
3- trackspec hood louvers install (engineers made sure the engine bay traps the heat lol)
4- track and test
5- oil cooler install
6- track and test

Forced induction cooling is a completely different game from a stock power motor cooling, ask me how I know .

You need to add radiator area ducting to your list, without it you will not see any really significant change. I've done that plus steps 1-4 in your list with using even bigger radiator, and it's still not enough. Oil cooler goes in next. If you have AT transmission, your situation is even worse. 266F CHT is just crazy high, 235 is when cooldown lap should already be going.

 

[EFI]

they say this

They say that, but in reality it doesn't translate to any better engine temps.

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