New 6.8L V8 Engine Coming For Mustang in 2022?!

[schmeky]

As much as I would like to see a big V8 for it's low-end power, I can't realistically use the power my current GT has. Roads are only going to get more congested and poorly maintained. Every time I'm tempted to buy one of my "dream cars", reality sets in and reminds me I have nowhere to drive it.

I've said essentially the same thing before. My 2018 gets to triple digit speeds effortlessly and many of the roads in my area are not suitable for airing mine out.

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[Stonehauler]

You make some good points, but...The “M” & ”V” series are regular production cars, not special editions.

The M and V are as much special editions as the Bullitt, SVT, Mach 1, Cobra, whatever you want to call it. Again, these things bring in money for Ford, I highly doubt they would produce it if it didn't make them money hand over fist. I have no doubt that some "special edition" paint job/performance pack/appearance package, whatever will come early and often. They need an excuse, not a reason.

Why do you doubt this will happen? How many years have there been special editions for the current gen mustang? 50th anniversary package, GT350, GT500, Bullitt, California Special, Mach 1...even before that there was the Boss 302...in other words, there has been a special edition every year since this launched. Some are performance oriented, some are appearance oriented, but there has been one every year.

Fear of Missing Out is a great driver of sales. By putting special editions out, it's drives sales, brings people in. Makes people make stupid financial decisions by encouraging them to trade in their perfectly good 2-3 year old GT so they can get the "new hotness". I really don't see Ford ending their gravy train, especially on a model as important as the Mustang is.

 

[engineermike]

One could argue that the M is more special since they actually get significantly redesigned engines.

 

[Gregs24]

European Mustang is going to have a hybrid V8 according to sources over here. Probably the same tech as reported here earlier in the year.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-patent-application-awd-hybrid-v8/

 

[Stonehauler]

European Mustang is going to have a hybrid V8 according to sources over here. Probably the same tech as reported here earlier in the year.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-patent-application-awd-hybrid-v8/

I can easily see that, and for regenerative brakes, that's really nice, but I hope... REALLY hope they do it right and it still feels like a RWD or at least a RWD biased car...and not a single ft lb or Nm of torque steer.

 

[engineermike]

To me, that would enhance the mustang. It really needs awd with the power levels are are at/approaching. Hybrid with a rwd long. V8 and electric motors up front scratch all the itches - traction, power, and efficiency.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Hasn't stopped them from calling the 302 a "5.0" for decades. Why accurately convert units now? Boss 307 also does have a ring too it.

Any 307 bell in a Mustang has a crack in it. 307 was a SBC displacement . . .


And FWIW, 5.0 liters was the upper limit on engine displacement for Trans-Am racing, so there's a pretty good argument for 5.0's in Mustangs really meaning "5.0 class" Mustangs, where the math need only be approximate. But the newest "5.0" would be class-illegal . . .


Norm

 

[Elp_jc]

Yep, 302 is never going to round up to 5.0; it's 4.9. That was the case before the 4.6s (which Ford probably called 289s, even though that'd be 4.7L), and Ford still called them 5.0. So nothing should surprises us anymore. Ha ha.

 

[shogun32]

engine "size" terms used in marketing is just that - marketing. Has no relationship with reality.

 

[WildHorse]

Yep, 302 is never going to round up to 5.0

302.1 cu in = 4951 cc. Pro tip for rounding: If the number you are rounding is followed by 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9, round the number up. If the number you are rounding is followed by 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4, round the number down.

 

[Bikeman315]

engine "size" terms used in marketing is just that - marketing. Has no relationship with reality.

This entire thread has no relationship with reality.

 

[Qcman17]

Im going to change my badges to 4.951....

 

[Qcman17]

Damn, I want 5.031 badges now. Or better yet, 42.53.

Good point mine is a gen 3 too... I'm okay I'll just grab some of our granddaughters magnetic fridge numbers and change them out again.

 

[Stonehauler]

I've said essentially the same thing before. My 2018 gets to triple digit speeds effortlessly and many of the roads in my area are not suitable for airing mine out.

owning one of those 400+ HP cars (550i), I understand your frustrations, but the things is, performance is not just how fast can you go, or how quick you can go from 0 to some particular speed.

To me, and this is just my opinion, performance is a combination of handling, braking, acceleration, and more and more, the ability to do so without giving you a bone jarring ride, not just top speed.

To me, being able to effortlessly lope down a straight highway at 70-75 mph is an example of performance (depending on where you are and the legal limit that state has). I've had too many cars where it felt like I needed to push the engine to get it to those speeds. 3000 RPM is great to pass by as you accelerate, but you should not need to hold it there to maintain speed unless you are on a road course or piloting a boat, and the car should not be shaking so much from driving at that speed that it feels like it's about to fall apart.

Being able to take sweeping or tight curves effortlessly is an example of performance. Yeah, there is something special about feeling like you are on the ragged edge, but if you want that, get an MX-5 or something similar where it feels like you are about to lose it taking a curve at the caution limit (or a truck where you might feel like you are going to tip over).

Being able to haul down your car from highway speeds to either a dead stop or at least a crawl is performance. You just have to drive around Chicago to see how traffic can go from 80 to 10 in no time flat. In fact, the first things I look at in a car is not how the HP/Torque feels under acceleration, but how good it slows down.

Finally, the ability to eat up the miles, while putting a smile on your face. When my wife and I go on vacation and it's not across an ocean, we prefer to do it as a road trip. Especially these days. Performance is the ability to drive for 14 hours and feel energized and enthused, with a great big smile on your face when you reach your destination, not drained, bruised, and worn out. I don't need to feel like I am fighting my car every step of the way unless I am pushing it to the ragged edge. Highway speeds should not be the ragged edge, even in the mountains. In our F350, we have to swap out every 6 hours or so. In my 5, I can easily drive the entire day and get out and feel ready to take on the world because it was a great drive.

So yeah, maybe I prefer cruiser cars (thunderbird, GS400, 550i) to a sports car, but I think there is something to be said about a big motor, a great handling and comfortable car with plenty of power and grip, and great braking capabilities.

 

[Bikeman315]

owning one of those 400+ HP cars (550i), I understand your frustrations, but the things is, performance is not just how fast can you go, or how quick you can go from 0 to some particular speed.

I agree with your comments but getting from point A to point B as fast as possible is what this thread is all about.

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