Will Trump be impeached?

[Docscurlock]

I can’t believe that Clown of a President we have, would bash a career Diplomat in a conversation with the leader of another country!

What did she do wrong?

Worked for Obama, enough said.

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[Docscurlock]

Are you tal

it amazes me how this guy can be so corrupt in plain sight a good amount of the time and his flock follow him blindly. He has no ideology and therefore is not tethered by any moral compass.

king about Biden? Schiff? Nancy (cmon she looks like a guy), Comey? Brennan? Trudeau? Strozk? Page (definitely not a guy)? NAdler? OMG where can I stop?

 

[GT Pony]

Another Trump Crony is going to Jail!

Roger Stone.

Rudy is next..

I think Rudy has a lot to worry about. More and more will come out connecting him as the main "mission man" sent out to push the dirt digging corruption forward.

 

[Docscurlock]

Yep, it's scary how some people believe and latch on to someone no matter what they say or do (ie, Germany in the late 1930s). Guess that's why I hate most politics because I see faults in all of it regardless of party. I won't let the political zombie eat my brain and become a blind follower of anyone.

Is that a thinly veiled attempt to brand people who support our President as Nazis?

 

[Docscurlock]

Could you imagine what our political process would be like if we legally allowed every country in the world to be involved? The founding fathers specifically wanted absolutely no part of that, and that's why we have laws against any forgien influence on this country's election process.

So, Ukraine, who has now been found to meddle in the election against Trump and for Hillary is ok? We did just send them a check for 391 million dollars of taxpayer money.

 

[GT Pony]

Is that a thinly veiled attempt to brand people who support our President as Nazis?

Nope, but if you want to take it that way that's your choice.

Anyone with any unbiased reality can see the similarity. Hard core followers are brain washed to some degree, and therefore loose a sense of what's right or wrong. It happened in the past, and it can happen again.

 

[Caballus]

Whether military, diplomatic, law enforcement or intelligence services, public servants, like AMB Yovanovitch, work for whoever the president is at the time. Our Constitution demands that public servants provide their best professional advice and then, once a decision is made, implement the decision of the President and other senior officials (SECDEF, SECSTATE, etc). AMB Yovanovitch did that no matter which president she served under. Whether there should be an impeachment hearing or not, it's not about AMB Yovanovitch's service or a whistle blower who expressed concerns to the ICIG. Americans do not turn on or politicize their (military, diplomatic, law enforcement, or intelligence) public servants...hopefully.

 

[GT Pony]

So, Ukraine, who has now been found to meddle in the election against Trump and for Hillary is ok? We did just send them a check for 391 million dollars of taxpayer money.

Did I say it was OK? Think you're reading between the lines a bit much.

So I'll put my legal hat on ... where's the evidence? Guess Trump thought there was enough evidence to stepped on a land mine to try and find out - ?.

So why would the Ukraine try to help Hillary, because Russia was trying to help Trump?

 

[Caballus]

"Ukraine" did not try to help one candidate over the other. To make sense of a statement like that, it would be necessary to look into Paul Manafort's support to Russian-leaning Viktor Yanukovych. The web just becomes more complicated from there. Bottom line, the issue of most importance should be, in my opinion, continuous Russian manipulation, which is being ignored and dismissed.

 

[Docscurlock]

Nope, but if you want to take it that way that's your choice.

Anyone with any unbiased reality can see the similarity. Hard core followers are brain washed to some degree, and therefore loose a sense of what's right or wrong. It happened in the past, and it can happen again.

Or maybe his "followers" as you put it or his supporters as I put it just have different opinions. If he blatantly broke a law it would be out there for everyone to see (like Nixon), it's not, it's hidden in hearsay, innuendo, second hand information, disgruntled career diplomats, consciousness of guilt, changing the definition of bribery to what the "founders" really meant by bribery, and on and on and on. We have elections in this country and are supposed to have peaceful transfers of power, this travesty has been anything but. For God's sake they were working on impeachment hours after the inauguration. They tried impeachment, using the 25th amendment, he's a Russian agent, he is the antichrist, everything. We are going to have an election in just over a year. Let the people decide if they want DJT 2.0. That's what we do in this country. Not secret depositions in an underground bunker, not being tried in the court of public opinion, not being unmercifully ridiculed by everyone on the left, not by chasing your supporters out of restaurants, not "outing" people who donate to a political campaign. WTF, the left is worse than East Germany. I didn't even vote for trump and only after watching the unfairness and crap he and his family have to put up with have I started supporting him. Americans have always loved the underdog and all this crap is for sure gonna help him in 2020.

 

[Docscurlock]

Did I say it was OK? Think you're reading between the lines a bit much.

So I'll put my legal hat on ... where's the evidence? Guess Trump thought there was enough evidence to stepped on a land mine to try and find out - ?.

So why would the Ukraine try to help Hillary, because Russia was trying to help Trump?

If foreign influence is a crime, Dems are just as or maybe more complicit than trump. Where's the moral outrage?

 

[Docscurlock]

Whether military, diplomatic, law enforcement or intelligence services, public servants, like AMB Yovanovitch, work for whoever the president is at the time. Our Constitution demands that public servants provide their best professional advice and then, once a decision is made, implement the decision of the President and other senior officials

It appears President Trump doesn't think she did that.

 

[Caballus]

It is his prerogative as president to assign and recall ambassadors without explanation and he exercised that prerogative. That does not mean that the American public, whom she serves, should impugn her and disregard her service. No different than Secretary Mattis and many others. Presidents choose who serves, but that doesn't detract from the honor or sacrifice of their service--unless, of course, we live in an echo chamber.

 

[GT Pony]

Or maybe his "followers" as you put it or his supporters as I put it just have different opinions. If he blatantly broke a law it would be out there for everyone to see (like Nixon), it's not, it's hidden in hearsay, innuendo, second hand information, disgruntled career diplomats, consciousness of guilt, changing the definition of bribery to what the "founders" really meant by bribery, and on and on and on. We have elections in this country and are supposed to have peaceful transfers of power, this travesty has been anything but. For God's sake they were working on impeachment hours after the inauguration. They tried impeachment, using the 25th amendment, he's a Russian agent, he is the antichrist, everything. We are going to have an election in just over a year. Let the people decide if they want DJT 2.0. That's what we do in this country. Not secret depositions in an underground bunker, not being tried in the court of public opinion, not being unmercifully ridiculed by everyone on the left, not by chasing your supporters out of restaurants, not "outing" people who donate to a political campaign. WTF, the left is worse than East Germany. I didn't even vote for trump and only after watching the unfairness and crap he and his family have to put up with have I started supporting him. Americans have always loved the underdog and all this crap is for sure gonna help him in 2020.

Guess I see Trump as continually degrading in his role as Pres because of his lack of morals, level of lies and behind the scenes schemes. Last thing I feel is sorry for someone who causes his own repercussions on a daily basis.

If he stopped acting like he's above the law, and stop tweeting lies and smears against his perceived enemies on a daily basis, more people might see him in a better light. That goes for any politician. Could you live with someone who operated like that in your life; ie, your siblings, children, spouce, friends, coworkers, etc?

 

[GT Pony]

If foreign influence is a crime, Dems are just as or maybe more complicit than trump. Where's the moral outrage?

I agree ... but what puzzles me is why didn't anyone blow the whistle on Biden when all that broke open at the time, especially if it was publicly know so everyone heard what was going on? There could be more to the story ... who knows. The public is basically a heard of sheep that is typically in the bark most of the time.

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