Whipple or Roush

[Kyle@ROUSH]

Hey guys,

This is what it comes down to, there is a place for every supercharger technology in the marketplace whether it is TVS, twin screw or centrifugal. We target the street/strip/weekend warriors looking to make up to 800HP while retaining OEM drivability, not to say that is the limit as there are numerous people hitting 1000HP with TVS technology. I’ll touch base on the grinding one last time. You need to remember we are a MOR and build pre-title vehicles and therefore we are held to new vehicle standards crash testing etc. The grinding is absolutely necessary to use the second sheave of the factory system. You must grind down the bosses for proper alignment of the new idlers. One positive thing is that your supercharger and AC compressor are not run with the rest of the driven items so in the highly unlikely event you do throw a belt you’re only going to lose the supercharger and AC compressor and will not be stranded. I’ve been instructed to no longer partake in the back and forth bickering. This obviously doesn't mean I'm not going to answer any specific questions you may have about our products, certainly feel free to give us a call or shoot me a PM. We've got calibrated kits with a warranty on the shelf ready to ship, if you're interested you're welcome to call and order.


Thanks.

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[SVTFreak]

Best not to bicker, Kyle. I respect both of your products for their own engineering. Anyone who can't find that for themselves and make an informed decision on their needs versus your two products, well, they are the reason ads work. To sway people with information that usually don't matter.

 

[Whipple SC]

Hey guys,

This is what it comes down to, there is a place for every supercharger technology in the marketplace whether it is TVS, twin screw or centrifugal. We target the street/strip/weekend warriors looking to make up to 800HP while retaining OEM drivability, not to say that is the limit as there are numerous people hitting 1000HP with TVS technology. I’ll touch base on the grinding one last time. You need to remember we are a MOR and build pre-title vehicles and therefore we are held to new vehicle standards crash testing etc. The grinding is absolutely necessary to use the second sheave. You must grind down the bosses for proper alignment of the new idlers. One positive thing is that your supercharger and AC compressor are not run with the rest of the driven items so in the highly unlikely event you do throw a belt you’re only going to lose the supercharger and AC compressor and will not be stranded. I’ve been instructed to no longer partake in the back and forth bickering. This obviously doesn't mean I'm not going to answer any specific questions you may have about our products, certainly feel free to give us a call or shoot me a PM. We've got calibrated kits with a warranty on the shelf ready to ship, if you're interested you're welcome to call and order.


Thanks.

Just for clarification, does this mean the vehicle was crash tested with the K-brace removed or modified as well as extensive FEA analysis to accurately state it does not matter?

Also would like to note, due to the complexity of the belt system you stated, the belt is difficult to remove as you have to remove the tensioner and idler assembly from the engine.

In our system, the belt can be exchanged or replaced within minutes. With an additional adjustable idler setup located between the balancer and alternator pulley, we can adjust nearly 3" giving customers plenty of belt choices in the future. The extra accessories driven, water pump and alternator do not have excess load applied to them, as the tensioner is pulling from the other side and each accessory is isolated on the pull side with an idler.

Our system is best suited for 500rw to 1050rw and we feel for a fraction of increase in price ($400), the level of engineering, packaging, fit and finish, power gains, ingenuity and components supplied is overwhelming. While we had the ability to supply a smaller intercooler system and save $400 to be identical in price, we wanted to separate ourselves from the others. There is plenty of business for all and we should all be able to get along as we have in the past.

As for bickering, only facts were provided here so customers can make informed decisions on what product best fits there needs. Any response I provide is to deal with inaccuracies posted such as the billet 6061-T6 fuel rails leaking vs a sheet metal/furnace brazed fuel rail or to directly answer the question at hand.

 

[Whipple SC]

Intercooler core open to the airflow above the intercooler core
Roush 40.9"
Whipple 71.4"

Surface area is king in intercooler effectiveness.....Below is a comparison.

 

[Gibbo205]

A couple of questions for both whip ole and rough please.
1. What are the weight of your kits?
2. Will you support Euro/UK cars?

Lastly is it true the Whipple puts the power down easier in 1st/2nd due to how it makes torque?

 

[FLSTANG]

Just had a whipple installed on my car today with the whipple tune. I did go with the larger throttle body and fan upgrade. 648/558 on supplied pulley. I am happy with the results. The dyno is under FASTLANE motorsports. Its the Ruby Red 2015.

 

[Grim_Reaper]

Just had a whipple installed on my car today with the whipple tune. I did go with the larger throttle body and fan upgrade. 648/558 on supplied pulley. I am happy with the results. The dyno is under FASTLANE motorsports. Its the Ruby Red 2015.

Perfect numbers! Any other mods to the car?

 

[FLSTANG]

Only other mods were a ford racing sport catback. I love this exhaust....everybody compliments it.

 

[Grim_Reaper]

Only other mods were a ford racing sport catback. I love this exhaust....everybody compliments it.

Nice! I have heard good things. Mine currently has the stock resonator deleted with X-pipe and then muffler swap for some small two chamber 10 Series/outlaw style. It is incredibly loud on cold start and high rpms but too raspy for my taste. Can't complain though cuz it cost less than $300 for parts and labor haha.

Planning on running Stainless Power Catless headers and MBRP Street or Race Exhaust on it when I get Whippled

 

[jayman33]

Nice! I have heard good things. Mine currently has the stock resonator deleted with X-pipe and then muffler swap for some small two chamber 10 Series/outlaw style. It is incredibly loud on cold start and high rpms but too raspy for my taste. Can't complain though cuz it cost less than $300 for parts and labor haha.

Planning on running Stainless Power Catless headers and MBRP Street or Race Exhaust on it when I get Whippled

That will be a good setup!

 

[Whipple SC]

A couple of questions for both whip ole and rough please.
1. What are the weight of your kits?
2. Will you support Euro/UK cars?

Lastly is it true the Whipple puts the power down easier in 1st/2nd due to how it makes torque?

The rough weight change is 91lbs of awesomeness, removing 35lbs of "stuff" gets you 56lb weight gain. Then add approx. 19lbs of water/coolant and you've got 75lbs added to the car. These are just rough numbers for conversation.

Certainly supporting Euro/UK cars! Already have some US based 5.0's in Europe, only some small calibration changes for Euro spec's. May have to do another instruction manual is it refers to driver/passenger side a few times, might be bit incorrect in the UK

 

[SVTFreak]

TMay have to do another instruction manual is it refers to driver/passenger side a few times, might be bit incorrect in the UK

Ok, that was humorous.

 

[Turrizm]

We sure can Rio!

We currently do offer Procharger but we plan on talking to them as soon as we move into our new facility this month

We do offer the Vortech and Paxton kits.

Any pics of the new facility? I'm really leaning towards driving down and having you guys install my blower and I'll fool around for a few days, maybe bring my kids and go fishing or something.

 

[jayman33]

We have a few pics on our facebook page. Myrtle Beach is only about 90 minutes from us as well as Wilmington. Both are good water spots for sure!!

 

[Gibbo205]

The rough weight change is 91lbs of awesomeness, removing 35lbs of "stuff" gets you 56lb weight gain. Then add approx. 19lbs of water/coolant and you've got 75lbs added to the car. These are just rough numbers for conversation.

Certainly supporting Euro/UK cars! Already have some US based 5.0's in Europe, only some small calibration changes for Euro spec's. May have to do another instruction manual is it refers to driver/passenger side a few times, might be bit incorrect in the UK

I will be wanting one of your kits for sure buddy for my UK V8 fastback when I get it, expecting it early 2016.

I am also thinking Ford FRPP race exhaust as love the sound.

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