What am I missing?

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l have my 2019 GT for three weeks now and so far the car is awesome. My car is a base GT 6mt with pp1. I’m 62 retired l have no plans on racing this car. What I would like to know is what I’m missing by not having drag mode, track mode, etc.
 

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l have my 2019 GT for three weeks now and so far the car is awesome. My car is a base GT 6mt with pp1. I’m 62 retired l have no plans on racing this car. What I would like to know is what I’m missing by not having drag mode, track mode, etc.
All you are missing is better throttle response with Sport+ mode and more foolproof winter driving with Snow mode. The first one can be fixed with a tune and you won't be missing anything of value.
 

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Hi Joe, welcome to the forum and congrats on the new Mustang. Honestly you should have asked that question before you bought your car :). Since you didn't, stop thinking about it. As Dan said if you're not racing it your not missing anything. If you are concerned about your warranty you can also pass on the tune, for now. Your car is awesome as is, enjoy it. Of course if you want to spend some $$$$$$, the members here will gladly assist you.
 

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And by "throttle response," they mean the amount of physical throttle input ratio to how wide the butterfly valve is opened on the throttle body.

Just spit balling numbers, but basically it's like this: normal mode means if you push the throttle 1/4 of the way down, the butterfly valve is opened 25% of the way. In sport mode, if you push the throttle 1/4 of the way down, the butterfly valve opens 35% of the way. The actual throttle response (time it takes the computer to respond to your physical input) does not change. Snow mode works the same way, but in the other direction. It also changes how the traction control functions. To my knowledge, the given modes do nothing to the engine's actual performance (more aggressive timing and what not) but I could be wrong here.

If you have the manual transmission then turning off advanced traction control is the most you'll need. The pp1 should also let you select between the three steering modes as an added plus. The 10 speed does benefit more from the different drive modes because it changes the behavior of the transmission.

As an fyi, if you want to experience sport mode, just double tap the traction control button.
 

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Feel-wise, I'd say Sport is about 50% more increasing throttle vs. pedal travel, and Snow about 50% less. I don't use the other modes. Sport just makes the throttle more "jumpy" and Snow makes it downright sluggish. Snow mode feels weeeird. I might use it the next time I'm in stop-and-go traffic. I've gotten used to the feel of Sport and always put it in that. But neither of these modes aren't anything you can't do yourself with your right foot.

To me the drive modes become a real convenience if you've opted for things like Magneride and the Active Exhaust. I don't have the top option package (didn't want it) that has the memory functions for things, so it's nice that the drive mode toggling will also switch the steering, suspension, and exhaust modes at the same time along with it, so I don't need to do those separately and additionally every time I get in the car.

So in a base GT you're not really missing much. IMO you got the two things that you really need. :thumbsup: Enjoy your new ride!
 

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Your car has the 3rd pedal. You Sir, are not missing anything!
 

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What are you missing? Nothing really if you are experienced driving a stick, keep the rpms up while up/down shifting through traffic or on/off ramps and the pedal response is on tap.
The only time, anymore I wish I had gotten the auto, is in the am if I take the car to work......really would enjoy a cup of coffee on the way to work.....
 

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The problem with this is it's expensive (converting) and there are lots of people who don't want to fool with tunes or understand them. Also like me there are no e-85 pumps anywhere for 100 miles. Also it may be cheaper per gallon at pump but gets horrible gas mileage so will be using much more of it. almost 33% more. I was also told that once you e-85 tune a mustang that is all you can use in it? the newer ones dont have the whatever for flex fuel in the ecu? If that is true that is rather limiting in your fuel choices. These are things I Have been told . I am not saying they're all true. please correct me if I am wrong so I can learn as well. Plus voids warranty?
18 up gen3 coyotes (if you researched) do not need anything but tuning to run straight E85. That can run $450-700 depending on tuner selected.

You can switch back to pump gas stock tune any time. It will not hurt your fuel system.

You pick up a boat load for torque in the everyday driving rpms. Dyno gains are showing easy 40 plus whp and torque.

Again, this is all here on this site.
Good luck.
 

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Joedag1, if you don't plan to race the car, the modes really shouldn't be that important to you. I only use drag mode at the drag strip and never use track, sport+ or snow/wet. The modes make a huge difference in automatic transmission behavior but since you have a manual, that point is moot.
 

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I really like them with the A10 I find it does change the cars behavior. It definitely tips the throttle in more. On kind of a funny note when I bought the car I didn't know it even had them. Someone on another forum asked me if it had them & I said I didn't so but I told him I did have the 301A option whatever that had in it..... Well what do you know it came with the Drive modes LOL. Bonus!
 
 
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