To all the manual drivers #2

[ice445]

I always just put it in neutral with foot off clutch while watching the lights to know when to go back into gear lol

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[brfdrums]

… and pull the e-brake. Give both feet a break !

I'll do that too...

 

[ORRadtech]

When at a stop light, Stay in first or do you go to neutral?

Why does it have to be one or the other?
It seems to me that the best driving practice would be to do whatever best fits the circumstances of the moment.

 

[mookieit]

Staying in gear does feel like the natural thing to do.

But then I heard that staying in gear puts unnecessary wear on the clutch and then I don’t think it is comfortable to sit with my foot on the clutch for an extended time

With that said, my habit is to stay in neutral.

 

[ORRadtech]

But then I heard that staying in gear puts unnecessary wear on the clutch and then I don’t think it is comfortable to sit with my foot on the clutch for an extended time.

I've never understood how people can think that will "wear on" the clutch. The clutch is literally disengaged from the flywheel when the pedal is depressed. The only thing wearing in that situation is the throw out bearing. If anything is going to cause more clutch wear then it's going to be the extra disengage/re-engage cycle of going to neutral and releasing the clutch pedal.

 

[Racer5973]

Since the first one was fun to read I thought I'd ask a part two...

When at a stop light, Stay in first or do you go to neutral?

With me it will depend on the where I am in the line and when I get to the light. If I am first in line and first to stop I'll stay in gear most of the time. Sometimes I'll go to neutral for just a few seconds then go to first. If I'm in the back of the line I'll go to neutral...especially in a long line and if I get to the light when it turns red...

Neutral. Easier on clutch assembly.

 

[Adam the Lighting Guy]

Motorcyclist mindset here.
If I'm first at a traffic signal, I'm always in 1st and on the clutch. I also almost always scan behind me when traffic approaches. This way(and it's happened to me before) if I need to suddenly get out of the way, I'm ready.

If I am in the middle of a group of cars at a light, I will sit in neutral.

 

[ORRadtech]

Neutral. Easier on clutch assembly.

How?
You're either putting a miniscule amount of wear on the throw-out bearing or on the clutch plates from the extra engage/disengage cycle.
There's wear either way. And either way it's so minor as to not be a consideration.

 

[mookieit]

I've never understood how people can think that will "wear on" the clutch. The clutch is literally disengaged from the flywheel when the pedal is depressed. The only thing wearing in that situation is the throw out bearing. If anything is going to cause more clutch wear then it's going to be the extra disengage/re-engage cycle of going to neutral and releasing the clutch

I've never understood how people can think that will "wear on" the clutch. The clutch is literally disengaged from the flywheel when the pedal is depressed. The only thing wearing in that situation is the throw out bearing. If anything is going to cause more clutch wear then it's going to be the extra disengage/re-engage cycle of going to neutral and releasing the clutch pedal.

I found a video that talks about tips when stopping at a light.

The host claims that the pressure plate is in an unnatural position and not ment to be in that position for extended periods of time and was wondering if that is correct.

About at 2:40 in the video he talks about this

 

[Hack]

I don't like to wear out the throw out bearing unnecessarily, so I shift to neutral and take my foot off the clutch. I prefer not to hold the clutch pedal down longer than it takes to shift in general. I think I got the habit from driving Foxes - the clutch cable didn't like to hold the pressure for long periods of time.

Really, it's just general mechanical sympathy.

 

[Racer5973]

How?
You're either putting a miniscule amount of wear on the throw-out bearing or on the clutch plates from the extra engage/disengage cycle.
There's wear either way. And either way it's so minor as to not be a consideration.

My preference and recommendation from 35+ years in the automotive industry. Somebody asked and that is my professional suggestion.

 

[Zrussian13]

All of you have it wrong. You pull up to the light and put it in neutral, foot off the clutch. Then you go thru your menu to track apps and select line lock. After that you press the brake pedal down way harder than you should ever have to followed by hitting the ok button. From there you clutch in and throw it back in first before you dump the clutch and enjoy 15-20 seconds of smoke while you wait for the light to change to green.

 

[Pittpa]

The exception being if I'm at the front of the line in the wrong lane and I need to tree the guy next to me to make the next turn.

No need, just goose the pedal and glance over at him. When he takes off, slip in behind him.

 

[FUN2RIDEFAST]

Since the first one was fun to read I thought I'd ask a part two...

When at a stop light, Stay in first or do you go to neutral?

With me it will depend on the where I am in the line and when I get to the light. If I am first in line and first to stop I'll stay in gear most of the time. Sometimes I'll go to neutral for just a few seconds then go to first. If I'm in the back of the line I'll go to neutral...especially in a long line and if I get to the light when it turns red...

Dependson when I caught the light but usually neutral.

 

[DAVECS1]

Be kind to throw out bearings, put it in neutral.

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