The Great BIG CAI Thread

[clubamericalara]

[ame]

saw this video, is there really horsepower lose after installing the JLT intake? i was practically sold on this one but now im having doubts again.

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[BGolden]

More than likely due to throttle closure for the loss of power. When the EB sees too much boost it will close throttle to control it. Depending upon how much the throttle closes can determine if there is a hp loss.

My reasoning for this is the increase in torque. There is only one way to increase torque with this car and it is through more boost. Therefore, from what I saw from their graph it appears the throttle is closing to control the amount of boost and causing the loss of hp.

So you will see more gains with tune as the tuner is able to tune the wg duty for the particular mods and will allow the car to make more power.

If you need a tune to go with your intake I have a special going on of $50 off etunes through June 30th. Go here:http://www.riptuning.com/2015-Tuning-s/1838.htm and enter MUSTANG6G when you check out.

Hope this helps.

 

[Juben]

saw this video, is there really horsepower lose after installing the JLT intake? i was practically sold on this one but now im having doubts again.

There's been several independent tests on the JLT intake to show that it gains both horsepower and torque.

That video is a bust in my opinion. The guys says it throws two codes: an overboost code and a vacuum line disconnected code.

First, if you pay attention, they say they're running the SCT strategy tune with the intake. In my opinion, that's where the overboost code comes from. Disconnecting that tube and capping the port on the intake isn't going to cause that issue. That's a tune issue.

Second, the vacuum line disconnected code probably came from the vacuum line (located adjacent to and left of the bpv port) not being properly connected. Again, disconnecting that tube and capping the port on the intake isn't going to cause that issue. These cars are MAP sensor based and can freely vent to atmosphere without problems or cause for concern.

If you're going to watch review videos like that, I'd highly suggest CJ Pony Parts videos. Bill knows Mustangs and the information you'd find in them will be factual and accurate. It isn't some off the wall BS like LMR spouted off in that video.

I run the JLT myself, and according to my datalogs, I gained a few horsepower and torque. I made sure to do some before and after testing for myself that I knew was under the same/close real world testing conditions, independent of any reason to skew results, etc.

So, with that said, if you like the JLT, I wouldn't have any hesitations in ordering it. It looks great, performs great, and does indeed add hp/tq. The throttle response is all quite good with it.

If you decide to order it, shoot me a PM and I'll give you a discount code for CJPP. It'll get you 5% off and it comes with free shipping.

 

[Vinny@JLTPerformance]

saw this video, is there really horsepower lose after installing the JLT intake? i was practically sold on this one but now im having doubts again.

Two very good replies ahead of this one, but in our testing and other shops testing this intake has had very similar results on the stock tune of gains.

When you starting tuning for the vehicles all bets are off as it's going to be very tune dependent.

Here's the post that Revolution auto did some independent testing where I broke down the graph.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=439800&postcount=89

 

[clubamericalara]

anyone seen what the engine bay looks like with the fftec CAI?

 

[Mishimoto]

Was about to pull the trigger and order the mishimoto from CJ when I saw this note on CJ's webpage: "Please Note: It is NOT recommended to use this kit with an aftermarket downpipe or cat-back exhaust, when used on your stock engine tune."

I already installed a Borla Touring catback exhaust and wanted to install the CAI then order an Unleashed tune. The idea was to give Torrie all the mods first to build the tune.
Unfortunately, I can't swing $$$ for both at the same time and I hate to order the CAI and have sit in the garage till fall.

What is the potential impact on running the CAI without a tune?

Any advice would be appreciated,
Flash

Idk where they got that recommendation from. I was running the FRPP sport catback and mishimoto intake together on the factory tune for a couple months with no issue

I would like to know where this came from as well. I just ordered a Flowmaster catback and already have the Mishimoto intake installed. I'm not sure why you would need a tune to run both. Does anyone know?

Hey guys! Just chiming in here to clear up some confusion regarding the use of our intake with upgraded exhaust components. It appears as though an error was made in our site tech notes. Our intake system is certainly applicable for use in combination with a cat-back exhaust system. We do not recommend utilizing our intake in combination with a down-pipe upgrade. For vehicles equipped with a downpipe and our intake, we do recommend a tune specific for that particular setup.

Thanks
-John

 

[David@FFtec]

anyone seen what the engine bay looks like with the fftec CAI?

Yes, here's a nice thread posted by one of our customers. He took several good pics. Let me know if you have any questions! :cheers:
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=435937&postcount=1

 

[clubamericalara]

http://www.horsepowerdirect.com/blog/tag/Injen+Mustang+2.3L looks like injen is jumping on board, personally I think it looks ugly as hell.

 

[turtleboy]

MMR, MAP, FFtec. They all claim their pluses. but one is 3", one 3.5" and the other has welded pieces. Just confuses the hell outta me. Any use a different filter or have the filter placement as far away from the engine as possible, ease of install, etc. Really want the best bang for the buck, with upgrading in the future if desired.

 

[Ron@cp-e]

you'll see a new intake from cp-e very soon
We are using 4" aluminum tubing and there will be options to run short ram, open filter in the fender well, or sealed box

 

[opensesame]

Has anyone experienced problems driving in the rain with the fender type CAI such as the Mishimoto CAI? My friend had it in his previous car and water kept getting into his engine via CAI and shutting it off.

 

[JerseyDevil]

MMR, MAP, FFtec. They all claim their pluses. but one is 3", one 3.5" and the other has welded pieces. Just confuses the hell outta me. Any use a different filter or have the filter placement as far away from the engine as possible, ease of install, etc. Really want the best bang for the buck, with upgrading in the future if desired.

We are almost done prototyping our intake, it will have a 3" internal flow area and features a CNC velocity stack, cnc BOV flange and large filter. Our intake puts the filter in the passenger side fender of the vehicle!

 

[Edwin]

Has anyone experienced problems driving in the rain with the fender type CAI such as the Mishimoto CAI? My friend had it in his previous car and water kept getting into his engine via CAI and shutting it off.

I've had the Mishimoto Intake installed for a few months now. I live in northwestern PA and the weather has been less than ideal. I have had any problems at all in the snow or rain. In fact, it was raining so hard here the other day I actually had to pull over. Never had to do that before but the wipers wouldn't keep up with the rain. If I didn't have problems then, I know I won't. As long as you don't have to drive through flood water that comes above the grill, you'll be fine with any of those open CAI.

 

[PewterCam]

We are almost done prototyping our intake, it will have a 3" internal flow area and features a CNC velocity stack, cnc BOV flange and large filter. Our intake puts the filter in the passenger side fender of the vehicle!

Ohhhhh.. Passenger side you say. Interested to see that one!

 

[Juben]

We are almost done prototyping our intake, it will have a 3" internal flow area and features a CNC velocity stack, cnc BOV flange and large filter. Our intake puts the filter in the passenger side fender of the vehicle!

This is most certainly interesting. Are you running an extension harness for the IAT sensor?

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