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Technical Reference Document: 2011-2019 5.0L Coyote V8 Engine Improvements & Changes

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This technical document, likely written by the Ford engineers and not marketers, says 7,500 rpm. Ford engineers in interviews have said 7,500 rpm. My analog tach shows 7,500 rpm (full white). Only the digital gauge cluster shows 7,400 rpm. I'm not sure why it says 7,400 rpm, but I'm inclined to believe the Ford engineers and my tach. at this point. The difference isn't much, but 7,500 rpm sounds cooler than 7,400 rpm for all those bar arguments referred to earlier.
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What is the factory rev limiter stock tune I forget? My tuner bumped mine to 7900. A10 shifts 7100 in D and 7500 in S. I never manually paddle it in S at wot.
 

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Interesting that the Gen 3 lost some weight. which would make sense though. More bored out material in the block and heads, composite oil pan, things of that nature.
 

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What is the factory rev limiter stock tune I forget? My tuner bumped mine to 7900. A10 shifts 7100 in D and 7500 in S. I never manually paddle it in S at wot.
I believe a soft 8200 (so tunable up to 8200) and hard limit of 9500.
 

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Unbelievable RPM for street engines. Ford rocks !
it revs like 90's Hondas VTec engines (which is not an insult, all the opposite) and is a V8!!!!!...
I love my Gen 3 Coyote, at the track, friends just can't believe how it pulls and revs + the torque at high RPMs feels awesome
 

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Really good info thanks. I downloaded it for future reference
 

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So does this confirm that redline on Gen 3 is in fact 7500 rpm?
Not the redline (which is 7,400 rpm); the rev LIMIT :D, which is when the engine cuts out electronically. Apparently on previous gens the rev limit was 7,000, so redline was probably a bit lower, like in our Gen3s. It should be easy to confirm with a 401A/Bullitt electronic dash in tach mode, letting the engine bounce on the limiter and see how much it is :).
 

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Interesting that the Gen 3 lost some weight. which would make sense though. More bored out material in the block and heads, composite oil pan, things of that nature.
No sleeves is the biggest savings. Which will be horsepower limited on the gen3. #gen2ftw
 

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One of the biggest improvements (for enthusiasts) is an obscure footnote in the bulletin: "Gen 2 block uses 11mm head bolts." Returning back to 12mm head bolts is a much needed modification for anyone planning to run high boost. The studs aren't just bigger cross sectionally and stronger, they run deeper in the block and it's much better for preventing head lift.

I'm not really a fan of direct injection and all the complexity (and cost) it adds. Additionally, using a 10 quart poly pan is one of those things that seems great (and is an improvement) but adds about $16-$20 for every oil change (so an extra $533-$666 over the 100k service life. For anyone who's not doing road racing under fairly harsh conditions, this is probably unseen benefits (and as many of the other improvements are just commonality with the other offerings).

At a glance, you might think the motor is all around better than it's predecessors, but the extra power comes largely from compression and rev limit and a bump in cubes while the extra torque comes from compression/cubes and probably some contribution from DI/Intake manipulation. It'd be an interesting exercise to see what a 12:1 compression gen 1/2 setup would yield with valve springs capable of 7500 rpm (although it claims peak power at 6500 for all 3). I bet even with the extra displacement it would close the gap substantially.
 

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Ford claims peak power on the Gen3 is at 7K, not 6,500. But I agree it seems largely the same at 6,500 rpm, therefore not having much benefit to run the engine to redline.
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