Steeda's New Adjustable Front Coil Over Kit

[wildcatgoal]

I'll be running Steeda's new highest rate springs (the dual rate model) very soon. I'll let ya'll know if I think I need more than whatever their wheel rate ends up at "on the track". I don't think these cars need super high spring rates - they certainly need a diet...

Speaking of BMWs, I notice when they take a sharp right turn, the body of the vehicle almost sort of pivots or angles with the downward most point at the inside front wheel. Where as, in the Mustang, when you do the same turn, the body seems to push UPWARD at the inside front wheel. I don't know what suspension geometry makes that difference, but I wonder if something could be done there to improve handling in these cars? I'm just spitballing here because I just noticed this the other day with a neighbor's 335is - the way it acted in a sharp left/right turn is much different.

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[hulk_smash]

I'll be running Steeda's new highest rate springs (the dual rate model) very soon. I'll let ya'll know if I think I need more than whatever their wheel rate ends up at "on the track". I don't think these cars need super high spring rates - they certainly need a diet...

Speaking of BMWs, I notice when they take a sharp right turn, the body of the vehicle almost sort of pivots or angles with the downward most point at the inside front wheel. Where as, in the Mustang, when you do the same turn, the body seems to push UPWARD at the inside front wheel. I don't know what suspension geometry makes that difference, but I wonder if something could be done there to improve handling in these cars? I'm just spitballing here because I just noticed this the other day with a neighbor's 335is - the way it acted in a sharp left/right turn is much different.

Thanks Wildcatgoal for chiming in.

BMWs have near 50/50 weight distribution. BMW chassis is great for trail braking and they tend to understeer less than most other comparable cars. It also inputs well to throttle steering.

Try trail braking into corners to get the car to plant and pivot.

 

[SteedaTech]

Agreed on the phone comment. I've been a Steeda customer for at least 20 years. I have a great relationship with a few people at Steeda. Why, because phone. I don't understand today's age just pick up the phone and ask to speak to a live human. Mike,Matt, Frank, all of them are more than willing to speak in depth about what anyone wants to know.

These coilovers are going to be a great option for a lot of people. Price, precision, tested and shipped with best in class customer service. I currently have KW V3 because they were what was at the time the best option for me but I would without a doubt pick these over KW had they been available. Maybe not as adjustable as my KW but for me and most people this is not an issue because we will most likely set it and forget it and the cost savings looks to be better than half the price comparably.

Yes, we will be knocking it out of the park with this new kit. It will be very
competitive price wise too!

Plus, Thanks for being a Steeda customer for over 2 decades!

 

[qtrracer]

Perhaps the Bimmer is running a high travel/low roll suspension strategy. As the car goes into dive, the front suspension travels maybe 3-4" due to lower spring/wheel rate. As the car turns, the rebound setting keeps the nose down, and big stiff front bar keeps the front from rolling. This permits the outside front and inside rear to define a role axis to allow rotation. The inside rear lefts just enough to pivot the car on that axis. Frankly, the S550 can do this too. But we need softer front springs, bigger front bar and enough rear to allow the rear to roll more than the front. Just throughing parts at the car won't accomplish this. You need to work out the strategy.

 

[wildcatgoal]

Interesting. See, you can notice this lift of the body at the inside corner wheel on the S550 vs. opposite, a dip on the BMW/MB, just turning the wheel stationary... seems to be a "hard part" (non-adjustable) geometry thing. I know a guy who tracks only BMWs, so I'm going to ask him to show me his suspension. I've never really looked at a BMW's suspension close. Totally different car though, but it just seems goofy the S550's body seems to LIFT on the inside front corner of a turn... not sure if that contributes to its natural tendancy to understeer (in stock form) or what. Interesting stuff...

 

[BmacIL]

Interesting. See, you can notice this lift of the body at the inside corner wheel on the S550 vs. opposite, a dip on the BMW/MB, just turning the wheel stationary... seems to be a "hard part" (non-adjustable) geometry thing. I know a guy who tracks only BMWs, so I'm going to ask him to show me his suspension. I've never really looked at a BMW's suspension close. Totally different car though, but it just seems goofy the S550's body seems to LIFT on the inside front corner of a turn... not sure if that contributes to its natural tendancy to understeer (in stock form) or what. Interesting stuff...

That's probably from the amount of caster. Not sure if BMWs have less on most of their platforms (ours is about 7-8 deg, which is fairly high).

 

[slink914]

Yes, we will be knocking it out of the park with this new kit. It will be very
competitive price wise too!

Plus, Thanks for being a Steeda customer for over 2 decades!

Will you be offering the weight/spring jackers for your other springs such as the ECO linear. Looking at the front adjustable as well.

 

[slink914]

Yes, we will be knocking it out of the park with this new kit. It will be very
competitive price wise too!

Plus, Thanks for being a Steeda customer for over 2 decades!

Will you be offering the weight/spring jackers for your other springs such as the ECO linear. Looking at the front adjustable as well.

 

[hulk_smash]

Agreed on the phone comment. I've been a Steeda customer for at least 20 years. I have a great relationship with a few people at Steeda. Why, because phone. I don't understand today's age just pick up the phone and ask to speak to a live human. Mike,Matt, Frank, all of them are more than willing to speak in depth about what anyone wants to know.

These coilovers are going to be a great option for a lot of people. Price, precision, tested and shipped with best in class customer service. I currently have KW V3 because they were what was at the time the best option for me but I would without a doubt pick these over KW had they been available. Maybe not as adjustable as my KW but for me and most people this is not an issue because we will most likely set it and forget it and the cost savings looks to be better than half the price comparably.

You guys are funny. You make it seem as if I'm bad mouthing Steeda. I'm not. I'm merely asking questions about products on a public forum so that others are also informed. It's actually good for Steeda as it saves them time from answering the same question twice. If I wasn't interested I wouldn't waste my time.

For example, BMR has never had issues answering questions. Kelly has always been so good at answering questions. Forum or phone call.

I'm asking away because I'm contemplating getting these over other coilovers. I don't see anything wrong with what I'm doing. I have a positive outlook toward Steeda and other vendors here.

So again, I am not sure why you guy are coming to Steeda's rescue. Steeda is a very big boy. They can answer for themselves.

If you don't have valuable things to say, don't clutter the thread. Thanks.

 

[wildcatgoal]

Feedback noted. Sometimes I get defensive because of the misinformation on forums in general that have led me into misguided buying decisions. I gotta relax. My recommendation to call and discuss your wants/needs will result in you having more factual information and in turn a happier result than just forum posts/answers and then you could come back here and help folks understand your personal decision making after the fact. I've found, when someone like me is really trying to setup their car for a purpose, it's a conversation and many of them. Unfortunately, many read something here and think it's right for them (like me historically) and end up misled. That's the point. Apologies for being a dick.

 

[Jmeo]

You guys are funny. You make it seem as if I'm bad mouthing Steeda. I'm not. I'm merely asking questions about products on a public forum so that others are also informed. It's actually good for Steeda as it saves them time from answering the same question twice. If I wasn't interested I wouldn't waste my time.

For example, BMR has never had issues answering questions. Kelly has always been so good at answering questions. Forum or phone call.

I'm asking away because I'm contemplating getting these over other coilovers. I don't see anything wrong with what I'm doing. I have a positive outlook toward Steeda and other vendors here.

So again, I am not sure why you guy are coming to Steeda's rescue. Steeda is a very big boy. They can answer for themselves.

If you don't have valuable things to say, don't clutter the thread. Thanks.

I like phone conversations because I'm old lol. You are misunderstanding me which is fine, not a big deal. I am not sticking up for anyone I'm only stating the fact that a 10 minute conversation can be way more productive and all questions can be asked and understood way easier for both parties then one can come and post what they have learned. Forums are great, that's why I've been a part of this one for 3 years.

Mike and TJ are very active on this forum answering questions of all kinds just as much as any vendor and they are not going to stop so no worries there.

Last time I checked this is a forum and people pop in offering their experiences or suggestions and suggesting to call a vendor is valuable advice wether you like it or not nor is it cluttering the thread

 

[mnmike59]

The rears will be coming out in 60 days. It will be the adjustable rear spring seat which is placed in the upper sub-frame.

Any updates? Are the front and rears now available?

 

[slink914]

[MENTION=25806]SteedaTech[/MENTION], can I get the coil over with 175 spring rate?. Its for a ecoboost
Thank you

 

[16s550]

I think I'm going to have to sell my koni struts for these

 

[SteedaTech]

[MENTION=25806]SteedaTech[/MENTION], can I get the coil over with 175 spring rate?. Its for a ecoboost
Thank you

Yes, Absolutely!

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