SCCA ESP Thread

[destoups]

Congrats again to boardkat, who came out on top in a spectacular ESP battle with Kit Gauthier's big bad Boss at the Packwood Pro. The echoes bouncing off the mountains were glorious.

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[murphyslaww]

Yes,congrats!

I definitely need to move to SM. Don't want.none o' Boardkat's beast.

 

[boardkat]

Congrats again to boardkat, who came out on top in a spectacular ESP battle with Kit Gauthier's big bad Boss at the Packwood Pro. The echoes bouncing off the mountains were glorious.

thanks again, des, and great job pushing cox too! i was serious when i said we'd car swap in packwood for our local next weekend - i wanna see how the heck your "electric" car can hang so well!!

it was nice to take the win, especially after my co-driver couldn't muster any heroics and shifted the pressure back to me to complete the set of hoosiers! felt bad knowing kit was having diff issues, but i figure the time i was leaving on the table at the line evened things out a little (2.0mid at best, 2.1high and 2.2low 60ft on my fastest runs though, uggh). glad i'm not doing the finale this year, i've got a lot of rust to shake off still!! anxious to see how we compare on a regular course with functioning cars - although i'll hopefully have a little more rear grip myself - giken is going in this weekend, now that i finally have the time to wrench on the car.

 

[boardkat]

gratuitous action shot from the tour; pleased with the minimal body roll, even though i'm still stuck on rear lowering springs:

 

[Schu]

Money shot!

 

[SteveW]

Congrats Dennis and Adam! Your car is so fun to watch.

 

[ecolulz]

Des and Boardkat, great to meet you both in person at the Packwood Pro! The Fiesta was a blast, but I think Deana will have more fun in the ESP Mustang GT at Nats. Our Mustang took another step toward ESP yesterday (MAPerformance tune), so hopefully we'll see if the Ecoboost cars can stand a chance in ESP. MCS shocks should be here soon...

 

[boardkat]

Des and Boardkat, great to meet you both in person at the Packwood Pro! The Fiesta was a blast, but I think Deana will have more fun in the ESP Mustang GT at Nats. Our Mustang took another step toward ESP yesterday (MAPerformance tune), so hopefully we'll see if the Ecoboost cars can stand a chance in ESP. MCS shocks should be here soon...

nice meeting you too, travis.

any chance you'll be bringing the car to SD/el toro and/or crows landing next spring for the tours and pros? i'll be at all of 'em. i'm up for car swapping on the TnT course if you want to see how the other half lives; i'm definitely interested in seeing how yours handles!

 

[boardkat]

finally got the diff installed into the spare carrier. dropping the subframe and buttoning it in time for another weekend in packwood. high hopes that this will unlock another door to moar fast!

 

[valentinoamoro]

Congrats again to boardkat, who came out on top in a spectacular ESP battle with Kit Gauthier's big bad Boss at the Packwood Pro. The echoes bouncing off the mountains were glorious.

Kit??? He's a good buddy of mine from work. Didn't know you all know him, I know he's quite the big shot at auto cross. Fondly remember riding in his Boss fresh off the dealer lot and driving it (by this point quite modded) in Bremerton last year. Congrats on winning.

 

[boardkat]

updated first post with setup changes and additional feedback.

guess who's out of rear travel, rebound, compression and spring???

*very* bumpy local course i ran last weekend, had to jack rebound way up in the rear to prevent the car from porpoising over a series of bumps in a fast section; bottoming the shocks didn't help either i'm guessing, at least judging by the zipties that i blew off the piston! i'm running the absolute stiffest springs i can cut up to fit in the rear in the stock location (~1600lbs/in), absent a custom spring perch which i won't have my hands on until this offseason. definitely going to need to send the rears back to MCS for a re-valve, too. luckily, lincoln is a much smoother surface. still have no idea what kind of car i'm bringing to the fight this year, so the first day could be entertaining!

see everybody there soon - can't believe we're hitting the road next week! time flies when you're having fun ramping up the early adoption curve

 

[murphyslaww]

updated first post with setup changes and additional feedback.

guess who's out of rear travel, rebound, compression and spring???



*very* bumpy local course i ran last weekend, had to jack rebound way up in the rear to prevent the car from porpoising over a series of bumps in a fast section; bottoming the shocks didn't help either i'm guessing, at least judging by the zipties that i blew off the piston! i'm running the absolute stiffest springs i can cut up to fit in the rear in the stock location (~1600lbs/in), absent a custom spring perch which i won't have my hands on until this offseason. definitely going to need to send the rears back to MCS for a re-valve, too. luckily, lincoln is a much smoother surface. still have no idea what kind of car i'm bringing to the fight this year, so the first day could be entertaining!

see everybody there soon - can't believe we're hitting the road next week! time flies when you're having fun ramping up the early adoption curve

Thanks Guinea Pig!

I wonder what the.stock KW Var3 will be like.

 

[boardkat]

Thanks Guinea Pig!

I wonder what the.stock KW Var3 will be like.

having spent so many years in stock class, i can't say i was enjoying this much as a driver 1st, setup guy a distant 2nd at first. but i've educated myself and have learned a lot about suspension dynamics and the supporting math this season! if nothing else, it gives me something to think about this offseason, rather than dreaming about driving for 6 months

having not seen the dynos for those shocks i can't say. but if they're following the status quo, they'll be out of rebound even faster than my MCS i predict, especially because their OTS setup is paired with a spring half the rate that i'm running.

 

[Drakoni]

boardkat,

I have read through this whole thread and the information here is tremendous. Thanks for sharing your findings and ESP setup.

I have been autocrossing now for about 10 years mostly with Volkswagen's, and a subaru for a year. Never were these cars prepared to be competitive. Maybe a set of 200 autox tires and some lowering springs/koni's. I now have a 2015 gt pp and would like to pick your brain.

I want to set the car up for CAM-C ,I picked up a set of apex 18x10 wheels and a set of 285 200tw tires. For financial reasons I can't set the car up out of the box so I'll have to do it in stages and generally on a budget. Also I want to make decisions suspension wise that will positively affect handling from an autox prospective bust still have it as my daily driver. My next mod now would be springs to lower the car and possible a sway bar. Struts will be next year and I will most likely go koni yellow.

What would you recommend for off the shelf springs? I was looking at steeda's linear springs that drop the car 1 inch. Should I run any different sway bar front or rear?

Thanks for your time and input.

Nick

 

[Whiskey11]

boardkat,

I have read through this whole thread and the information here is tremendous. Thanks for sharing your findings and ESP setup.

I have been autocrossing now for about 10 years mostly with Volkswagen's, and a subaru for a year. Never were these cars prepared to be competitive. Maybe a set of 200 autox tires and some lowering springs/koni's. I now have a 2015 gt pp and would like to pick your brain.

I want to set the car up for CAM-C ,I picked up a set of apex 18x10 wheels and a set of 285 200tw tires. For financial reasons I can't set the car up out of the box so I'll have to do it in stages and generally on a budget. Also I want to make decisions suspension wise that will positively affect handling from an autox prospective bust still have it as my daily driver. My next mod now would be springs to lower the car and possible a sway bar. Struts will be next year and I will most likely go koni yellow.

What would you recommend for off the shelf springs? I was looking at steeda's linear springs that drop the car 1 inch. Should I run any different sway bar front or rear?

Thanks for your time and input.

Nick

I would do the shocks/struts LONG BEFORE springs. The stock dampers suck for autocross use and adding more spring rate is only going to make that worse...

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