Recommendations for more power while staying N/A

[Zinc03svt]

The internet...lol.

Here is a quick link.

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-intake-manifold-gr3z9424c

No shit...? ;). Plus $92 shipping on that Tasca piece. Again 400 bucks I would be a buyer. Not so much @ $730.

I would also like the option to return it if I do not like the performance diff.

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[jmeiers]

AFS Ported CJ, VMP 137, Steeda CJ closed intake, BMR lowering motor brackets = ~$2,500.

It's only money and if you don't have any extra money, you shouldn't be modding your car. Just put your stimulus payment towards helping these small businesses. And you can sell your stock intake, throttle body, and intake stuff to recoup some of the costs.

 

[sabtaj1]

No shit...? ;). Plus $92 shipping on that Tasca piece. Again 400 bucks I would be a buyer. Not so much @ $730.

I would also like the option to return it if I do not like the performance diff.

Plus like $40 in sales tax. LOL

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Here is some data. Blue is the GT350 on the Graph. 8.7 is the GT350 60-130, and 9.12 is the 18 Mani setup.

Both set ups have been quicker. Both has seen a touch more MAF flow etc....but this was done on a hot and muggy FL day a few hours apart....as close to back to back as I can get. People can believe it or not, or find flaws in it...but its just what I do in an effort to go faster. The people who usually scoff at the stuff I do, are the ones who cannot make the same combos go as quick and fast as mine. I am sure people will rely on the published dyno articles over this, and that is fine.

This is manifold swap only. Supporting mods are 95mm ZR1 TB, JLT 120mm CAI and 2" LTH Longtubes. No tuning changes whatsoever. Ran the 18, came home swapped to GT350 and ran the GT350.

Another question: What are the numbers in the table, units, etc. RPM is obvious, I'm referring to the first two columns, and how the hp difference is calculated. Thanks.

 

[KellTrac]

No shit...? ;). Plus $92 shipping on that Tasca piece. Again 400 bucks I would be a buyer. Not so much @ $730.

I would also like the option to return it if I do not like the performance diff.

That would be from a lack of trying. I can get my local Ford dealers to price match and not charge shipping.

But yeah. Call it 700. Most think it's $1K+ to go GT350 manifold.

I wouldve paid 750 had I known what I do now.

 

[KellTrac]

Another question: What are the numbers in the table, units, etc. RPM is obvious, I'm referring to the first two columns, and how the hp difference is calculated. Thanks.

MAF flow by lb/min. The common assumption is that it shows your horsepower. Many variables there - I am not claiming those are my HP #s...but I am showing the gain in flow comparisons. Same tune and same day etc...so it should be pretty close.

30lb/min = 300hp (1lb is roughly 10hp)

So flowing 38, changing a part and seeing 40....in theory would be 380hp and 400hp. Thats a 20hp gain. Again all rough stuff and not absolute.

 

[Troy Carter]

I would also like the option to return it if I do not like the performance diff.

HAHA

I'd love that option on many things in life. Heck, I'd love it if they also paid me for my time to test it for them and formulate an opinion on it's worth.

 

[Troy Carter]

Really good info here and thank you for doing the work and sharing the info.

 

[Zinc03svt]

HAHA

I'd love that option on many things in life. Heck, I'd love it if they also paid me for my time to test it for them and formulate an opinion on it's worth.

Lol. I doubt they would know it was actually used if you where careful and did not ding it up. ;).

 

[Zinc03svt]

I am not discounting what Kelltrac has done here, but I would need more data and from more than just one person to drop $700-800 bucks. My car has pulled 51.7 maf counts on stock 18 box and manifold.

 

[Troy Carter]

I am not discounting what Kelltrac has done here, but I would need more data and from more than just one person to drop $700-800 bucks. My car has pulled 51.7 maf counts on stock 18 box and manifold.

I don't disagree that it's nice to see multiple data points but your maf reading alone doesn't mean anything compared to his. Different car, different maf housing, different tune. His data is key because it directly compares only an intake change with all the other stuff (maf housing, tune, etc.) being equal.

And, with a little research you can find other comparisons between different intakes. Some have been posted on this thread. Almost all of them require a little reading between the lines but it's out there. You could take Ford's word for it when you compare normal GT's to the Bullit considering the only real hard part change is the intake/tb and it gains 20hp.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

I am not discounting what Kelltrac has done here, but I would need more data and from more than just one person to drop $700-800 bucks. My car has pulled 51.7 maf counts on stock 18 box and manifold.

I agree, it's a great data point, but is still just one person's experience. I thought I was set on just porting my stock ('18) manifold, now, I realize I have more research to do. That said, 4 car lengths from 60-130 mph is no joke.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

I don't disagree that it's nice to see multiple data points but your maf reading alone doesn't mean anything compared to his. Different car, different maf housing, different tune. His data is key because it directly compares only an intake change with all the other stuff (maf housing, tune, etc.) being equal.

And, with a little research you can find other comparisons between different intakes. Some have been posted on this thread. Almost all of them require a little reading between the lines but it's out there. You could take Ford's word for it when you compare normal GT's to the Bullit considering the only real hard part change is the intake/tb and it gains 20hp.

Good points.

 

[TEXAS HEAT]

@KellTrac Have you done a direct comparison between the GT350 throttle body and your custom 95mm on the GT350 manifold? I'd like to see a back to back airflow and acceleration test of those two on the same manifold...

 

[Zinc03svt]

I agree, it's a great data point, but is still just one person's experience. I thought I was set on just porting my stock ('18) manifold, now, I realize I have more research to do. That said, 4 car lengths from 60-130 mph is no joke.

When looking at the just the dyno charts they do not show a 4 car length difference between the two power wise. ??? ;).

That would reflect at least 30-40 whp difference imo.

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