Procharged 2014 overheating issue HELP NEEDED

[K4fxd]

Will the 4.6 water pump fit the coyote? It turns the opposite direction.

I still think it is a water pump issue.

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[Procharged 5.0]

move air intake?
pullling air from above exhaust headers in stop n go driving is not going to work.
Insulate the exhaust headers like 2x if you have to run it like that?

Not sure how else it could be mounted. There is no room to move it anywhere under the hood

 

[Procharged 5.0]

Will the 4.6 water pump fit the coyote? It turns the opposite direction.

I still think it is a water pump issue.

No idea if a 4.6 will fit. But i'm 100% certain its got the correct water pump installed. Also it did the same thing with the old water pump. So I doubt it could be that. Whats the odds two pumps are bad

 

[K4fxd]

Whats the odds two pumps are bad

I've seen it happen, but yes, unlikely.

 

[Jackson1320]

Only thing about the water pump is the belt could be wrong and turning the pump backwards

 

[ProChargerTECH]

move air intake?
pullling air from above exhaust headers in stop n go driving is not going to work.
Insulate the exhaust headers like 2x if you have to run it like that?

That air inlet has ZERO effect on an overheating issue. And frankly has only a 5 degree effect on inlet air temp, once the car is moving just 2mph. (air goes DOWN, in an engine bay once the car moves, not UP).

 

[DougS550]

That air inlet has ZERO effect on an overheating issue. And frankly has only a 5 degree effect on inlet air temp, once the car is moving just 2mph. (air goes DOWN, in an engine bay once the car moves, not UP).

I would never put an air intake in my car which sucks air directly from the hot engine bay area. Under hood temps will never be as cool as direct ambient air. I don't care how fast you go. In fact, I just bought a Wifi Temp probe I will put in the engine bay and take temp readings and outside temps. They absolutely will not be even close. That's just crazy talk.

 

[ProChargerTECH]

I would never put an air intake in my car which sucks air directly from the hot engine bay area. Under hood temps will never be as cool as direct ambient air. I don't care how fast you go. In fact, I just bought a Wifi Temp probe I will put in the engine bay and take temp readings and outside temps. They absolutely will not be even close. That's just crazy talk.

I have a video that I will be coming out with that, proves my point. Have done WAY too much data collection and testing. The ONLY time that blowers inlet temp gets high is during sitting at a stop for a long time... and even then the intercooler cools it down to within 20 or so (depending on the application and outside temp)

But once again, soon as there is 2mph of movement... that heat is no longer rising in the engine bay. Its actually going down under the car. And thus the air being fed the blower is whatever is being sucked in from the grill / head lights / hood crack / open hole from the old air box / etc.

We don't mess around with data.

 

[andrewtac]

I have a video that I will be coming out with that, proves my point. Have done WAY too much data collection and testing. The ONLY time that blowers inlet temp gets high is during sitting at a stop for a long time... and even then the intercooler cools it down to within 20 or so (depending on the application and outside temp)

But once again, soon as there is 2mph of movement... that heat is no longer rising in the engine bay. Its actually going down under the car. And thus the air being fed the blower is whatever is being sucked in from the grill / head lights / hood crack / open hole from the old air box / etc.

We don't mess around with data.

I see the same with the vortech and I have a stubby filter directly mounted, sucking up air directly behind the radiator. The issue is with the race track sitting in the stage lanes, stop and go when the lines get long. But on the street no issues.

 

[Procharged 5.0]

Only thing about the water pump is the belt could be wrong and turning the pump backwards

do you mean I could have the wrong pump installed or that the belt is on wrong?
I don't believe the belt can be installed the wrong way.

this is the pump i installed

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-8501-M52A

 

[Procharged 5.0]

UPDATE.

I took the car out today and did about 10 hard pulls to the top of 5th gear to see what would happen. And with the weather being in the low 80's the car stayed cool without issues. got to about 230 degrees on the cylinder heads but as soon as i started cruising on the highway is came all the way back down to 180. And in stop and go traffic it will tun no hotter than 210.

So it seems it is 100% overheating due to the outside temperature. anything over 100 degrees ambient and the car can't keep itself cool.


Any ideas guys

 

[K4fxd]

Looking at the impeller that pump is designed to turn clockwise.

 

[Procharged 5.0]

Looking at the impeller that pump is designed to turn clockwise.

I just went out and checked. the pump is turning clockwise if your standing in front of the car looking at the engine.

 

[CJJon]

UPDATE.

I took the car out today and did about 10 hard pulls to the top of 5th gear to see what would happen. And with the weather being in the low 80's the car stayed cool without issues. got to about 230 degrees on the cylinder heads but as soon as i started cruising on the highway is came all the way back down to 180. And in stop and go traffic it will tun no hotter than 210.

So it seems it is 100% overheating due to the outside temperature. anything over 100 degrees ambient and the car can't keep itself cool.


Any ideas guys

Trade it in now...

 

[K4fxd]

I just went out and checked. the pump is turning clockwise if your standing in front of the car looking at the engine.

Yes that is correct.

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