Oil Pump Question

[eisenhauer01]

My new MMR Hurricane Oil Pump Assembly just arrived.
To my surprise, the oil pump gears were bone dry. No pre-lube or anything.
So I called MMR to ask about it.
Their response:
"It is fine and that's how they come. If you want to shoot a little oil in there you can, but you don't need to. You can just install the pump and fire it up and it will be fine."
I'm on the fence of removing the back plate and lubing things up, or at least putting some fresh oil into it and rotating the gears some.
I'm not installing them dry.
Thoughts?

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[NGOT8R]

I would disassemble and hit them with assembly lube. Do you already have the timing cover off and ready to install it?

I’ll be removing my factory pump soon to install billet OPGs and CS and that’s what I intend to do, remove rhe factory pump, disassemble, thoroughly clean, apply assembly lube to the new gears and then button it back up.

 

[Timbuck]

strange it would come dry. i see no need to pull it apart to lube it up. Just pour oil into it and turn it By hand.

 

[Pws6]

My new MMR Hurricane Oil Pump Assembly just arrived.
To my surprise, the oil pump gears were bone dry. No pre-lube or anything.
So I called MMR to ask about it.
Their response:
"It is fine and that's how they come. If you want to shoot a little oil in there you can, but you don't need to. You can just install the pump and fire it up and it will be fine."
I'm on the fence of removing the back plate and lubing things up, or at least putting some fresh oil into it and rotating the gears some.
I'm not installing them dry.
Thoughts?

Why buy a companies product if you don't think they are correct despite being an expert in the field? Seems pretty dumb

 

[eisenhauer01]

Do you already have the timing cover off and ready to install it?

Yeah, its all apart. Engine is out of the car for the winter. Doing a few different things with it before dropping it back in and installing the Paxton.

 

[eisenhauer01]

strange it would come dry. i see no need to pull it apart to lube it up. Just pour oil into it and turn it By hand.

Agreed. Prob what I will end up doing.
Wanted to poll the group here, as this is the first time I've heard of someone recommending to install them dry... Coming from MMR nonetheless.
Every other resource states to lube them. Mechanically, installing them dry is a terrible idea imo.

 

[eisenhauer01]

Why buy a companies product if you don't think they are correct despite being an expert in the field? Seems pretty dumb

Yes, seems pretty dumb to think for yourself and ask questions on a public forum. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.

 

[Pws6]

Yes, seems pretty dumb to think for yourself and ask questions on a public forum. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.

You're not thinking for yourself, you're questioning people on part you thought was good to spend hundreds of dollars on, but not good enough to trust the people that built it. What sense does that make?

 

[eisenhauer01]

You're not thinking for yourself, you're questioning people on part you thought was good to spend hundreds of dollars on, but not good enough to trust the people that built it. What sense does that make?

Because people make mistakes.. even the experts. I see it every day. You can put your opg in dry, and we can agree to disagree. I'm not installing them dry. Basic mechanics say it's not a good idea. Came here looking for others opinions. Thanks for yours, it was very helpful.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Just dump some engine oil in it.

 

[SheepDog]

Because people make mistakes.. even the experts. I see it every day. You can put your opg in dry, and we can agree to disagree. I'm not installing them dry. Basic mechanics say it's not a good idea. Came here looking for others opinions. Thanks for yours, it was very helpful.

Like others are saying -Just dribble some oil in the hole that connects to the pickup tube, and roll it over a few times with your fingers.

 

[NGOT8R]

Yeah, its all apart. Engine is out of the car for the winter. Doing a few different things with it before dropping it back in and installing the Paxton.

Built motor? Did you pull it from the top or raise the body up off of it?

 

[OldbutNew]

Pumps at Essex Engine Plant (5.0) show up essentially dry. Having oil in them is problematic for shipping and as they are going through warehousing they might sit in areas where they attract dirt. Pumps at Dearborn Niche (5.2L) are bagged and have a little bit of a light oil in them. In both cases, the engines get pressure pre-lubed before cold test.
I will always, always, put some oil in the pump and turn it by hand before install.

 

[Cordero1]

If its apart might as well check clearances too.

 

[eisenhauer01]

Built motor? Did you pull it from the top or raise the body up off of it?

No, not building the motor right now.
Just fixing some oil leaks, cleaning things up, and some items to prepare for FI. Opg and CS being a few of them.
Was going to leave the engine in the car and do it all, but a leak at the oil pan gasket was the last straw. I have all winter, so out it came.

Pulled it out the top, with the trans.
Attempted to pull it with the LTH's, and I could have done it with an extra hand... But it was way easier to zip off the motor mounts and headers once I had the engine half way out.
Afterwards, the combo came out pretty easily and I separated it and got it on the engine stand. I wish I could get the ac condenser to lay under the car or more out of the way, but otherwise with the whole front end off the car there was plenty of room to work.

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