Neighbors complaining about cold start-ups

[GT Pony]

Seeing as my car is on my property parked in a garage, yeah. Castle law applies. Glad you know so much about SC Laws.

"The stated intent of the legislation is to codify the common law castle doctrine, which recognizes that a person’s home is his castle, and to extend the doctrine to include an occupied vehicle and the person’s place of business. This bill authorizes the lawful use of deadly force under certain circumstances against an intruder or attacker in a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle. The bill provides that there is no duty to retreat if (1) the person is in a place where he has a right to be, including the person’s place of business, (2) the person is not engaged in an unlawful activity, and (3) the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent death, great bodily injury, or the commission of a violent crime. A person who lawfully uses deadly force is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action, unless the person against whom deadly force was used is a law enforcement officer acting in the performance of his official duties and he identifies himself in accordance with applicable law or the person using deadly force knows or reasonably should have known the person is a law enforcement officer."

H.4301 (R412) was signed by the Governor on June 9, 2006.

I see nothing in that law (item 3) that says you can use deadly force to protect property. You shoot someone for vandalizing your car, you'll be going to jail.

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[Fox5.0]

Isn't this thread about an exhaust being too loud ? Not castle laws or shooting someone lol

 

[73MachI]

Isn't this thread about an exhaust being too loud ? Not castle laws or shooting someone lol

Maybe it's just about tolerance and reading skills...

 

[TheFaulk]

I see nothing in that law (item 3) that says you can use deadly force to protect property. You shoot someone for vandalizing your car, you'll be going to jail.

You missed the part about my car being in my garage. If you come into someone's house they can indeed shoot you. If you don't believe me maybe you should try it sometime. You missed the part about private property and the car being in a garage.

I stated if my car or someone else's car was being vandalised in public I'd hold the person until the police got there.


But yes, it was about exhaust being loud then people were insinuating that they'd vandalise someone's car if it was loud or bothered them and I'd said I'd shoot you if you trespassed and vandalised my car then the liberals went crazy.

 

[moto111]

Lock this thread already Jesus lol

 

[GT Pony]

You missed the part about my car being in my garage. If you come into someone's house they can indeed shoot you. If you don't believe me maybe you should try it sometime. You missed the part about private property and the car being in a garage.

The law you quoted covers inside your house, and it only allows you to use deadly force for: the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent death, great bodily injury, or the commission of a violent crime. It's right there in black and white.

If the guy inside your house or garage isn't trying to kill you, or hurt you with great bodily injury, and was just vandalizing your car you can't just shoot him. Now if he stated coming at you to beat the shit out of you or try to kill you with something, then yeah for sure.

People don't realize how fine of a line there is for justifying a shooting.

 

[Tofino]

Someone breaking into your home in possession of a weapon to vandalize a car, is so out of control that I am almost certain a judge would see them as a threat to hurt people also. So yes they are threatened by violence and hence shooting them would be justified.

 

[Taneras]

Someone breaking into your home in possession of a weapon to vandalize a car, is so out of control that I am almost certain a judge would see them as a threat to hurt people also. So yes they are threatened by violence and hence shooting them would be justified.

Actually... This. But it would be a DA with regards to pressing charges and/or a jury. It would be an easy to defend case depending on what the person was holding. A knife to slash the tires or seats? A baseball bat to break mirrors/windows? Spraypaint to damage the paint? Depending on the item it could be easy to argue a "fear for your life" type of response.

Of course the original comment that started this all was about someone living in a community where the car would be in a private lot where, quite literally, all the residents and their guests would have legal access too.

Also, we're way off topic. Good luck OP! Hope you find a way to be civil but keep your exhaust.

 

[GT Pony]

Someone breaking into your home in possession of a weapon to vandalize a car, is so out of control that I am almost certain a judge would see them as a threat to hurt people also. So yes they are threatened by violence and hence shooting them would be justified.

Of course ... IF the guy has a weapon and was trying to use it on you, then yeah bets are you could claim you felt like your life was threatened and could justify using deadly force.

But someone in your house with no weapon and showing no intent to bodily harm you, it would be pretty questionable to justify in court.

Citizens DO NOT get the same justification rules as police do in shootings. They should, but they do not in court.

Just saying that people who own guns (me included) need to know the law inside and out, or one wrong move using it might ruin your whole life.

 

[Jon|3.7]

Now it's at shooting people from solutions to killing Haha I guess that is a solution

 

[Khyber]

I see nothing in that law (item 3) that says you can use deadly force to protect property. You shoot someone for vandalizing your car, you'll be going to jail.

you should read what you highlighted in the quote as red and the immediate sentence.

guys. in SC if ANYONE breaks into your home. you can pop them. it happens all the time, it's the law, and you will not be prosecuted. end of story. I think along with SC, some other southern states, and texas have this protection too for the homeowner during a home invasion. No one is invading your home just to say hello. They have intentions.

now back to our regularly scheduled program, the exhaust.

 

[GT Pony]

guys. in SC if ANYONE breaks into your home. you can pop them.

Not per the SC law quote that was posted. Circumstances in item (3) have to apply. Check with your police department and see what they say about just smoking someone who walks into your house if circumstances in item (3) don't occur.

(3) the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent death, great bodily injury, or the commission of a violent crime.

 

[Khyber]

you obviously can't comprehend what you're reading, you also don't live here. If someone is breaking into your home. That is criminal intent(stealing, rape, kidnapping, muder, etc), possible they are going to kill you. The state gives you permission to blow them away. Please re-read the law.

 

[blitzburgh]

Beat the guy to death with the stock exhaust on the garage shelf. Then cold start your car so it LOUD as hell and wait for the police.

 

[GT Pony]

you obviously can't comprehend what you're reading, you also don't live here.

The law was quoted in black and white. What's there not to comprehend. You can't just kill someone because they walk into your house unless they are trying to harm you. That's exactly what the law says.

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