Mustang Sales Down 41%...

[YOLO]

Wow. Just read this article today and it said Mustang sales are down 41% since the 2015 model year.

I didn't believe it since I would have guessed Mustang sales are up with this new model, especially the 2018. But sure enough I checked the Year over Year sales numbers and they were correct.

I had no idea sports car sales were falling off a cliff.

Seems like Millenials are the ones to blame according to the article.

Same is happening with the Camaro and Corvette.

Enjoy these cars while we can. Soon they will be Dinosaurs.

http://www.nydailynews.com/featured...uld-signal-end-of-an-era-20180910-story.html#

DETROIT (AP) — Sales of new American muscle cars are falling, raising questions in Detroit and elsewhere about whether a nostalgic, high-horsepower cruising culture that dates to before the 1950s is in peril.

Yet U.S. sales of the iconic Mustang, which leads the segment in 2018, fell 13 percent in 2016, almost 23 percent last year and 5 percent during the first half of this year.

Schuster said the risk is low, but it's still possible, that the muscle car segment could be dying. It won't happen within the next five years, but after that, he said the risk rises. "You're losing a market unless you do something with the vehicle that appeals more to a younger buyer," he said.

Since 2015 Mustang sales are down 41%.

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[BmacIL]

Still less of a decline than the overall car (everything but CUV/SUV/Truck) market...

 

[TexasRebel]

Just to throw some math at you...

if 2015 = 100%

2016 = 100% - 13% = 87%

2017 = 87% - (23% of 87%) = 67%

2018-to-date = 67% - (5% of 67%) = 64% = 100% - 36%

so down 36% from 2015... not 41%

I'm going to assume your sources are as reliable as your math.

 

[YOLO]

Still less of a decline than the overall car (everything but CUV/SUV/Truck) market...

Yep. Still depressing to see the performance car market taking such a hit. Passenger cars also.

I can't stand SUVs.

I see this new crap Tesla (Model 3?) is running 0-60MPH in 3.5 seconds. WTF?

Very few American high horsepower cars can consistently get those low numbers.

I hope the whole EV market goes to hell and Trump does away with every incentive.

 

[thehunterooo]

Mods please this dude is from C6G wow

 

[IronG]

Wow. Just read this article today and it said Mustang sales are down 41% since the 2015 model year.

I didn't believe it since I would have guessed Mustang sales are up with this new model, especially the 2018. But sure enough I checked the Year over Year sales numbers and they were correct.

I had no idea sports car sales were falling off a cliff.

Seems like Millenials are the ones to blame according to the article.

Same is happening with the Camaro and Corvette.

Enjoy these cars while we can. Soon they will be Dinosaurs.

http://www.nydailynews.com/featured...uld-signal-end-of-an-era-20180910-story.html#

DETROIT (AP) — Sales of new American muscle cars are falling, raising questions in Detroit and elsewhere about whether a nostalgic, high-horsepower cruising culture that dates to before the 1950s is in peril.

Yet U.S. sales of the iconic Mustang, which leads the segment in 2018, fell 13 percent in 2016, almost 23 percent last year and 5 percent during the first half of this year.

Schuster said the risk is low, but it's still possible, that the muscle car segment could be dying. It won't happen within the next five years, but after that, he said the risk rises. "You're losing a market unless you do something with the vehicle that appeals more to a younger buyer," he said.

Since 2015 Mustang sales are down 41%.

What is the point of this post. The F-150 is one of the best selling vehicles of all time, does not mean I want one. Is it really important that sales of cars are higher and lower over time. Pretty sure that has always been the case or am I missing something?

 

[thehunterooo]

Stay in school, kids.

It is probably torque or blaq they have mental illnesses so they can't help it.

I also posted another article with the same info. It is misleading because the 2015-2016 sales were super high and not normal. If you check the numbers from 2010+ 2015 and 2016 were the two highest years total out of the three cars so far. But these people have some sort of mental issue and can't figure it out.

 

[Zelek]

I blame Nike. We should burn our Mustangs.

 

[LantanaMustang]

Wow. Just read this article today and it said Mustang sales are down 41% since the 2015 model year.

I didn't believe it since I would have guessed Mustang sales are up with this new model, especially the 2018. But sure enough I checked the Year over Year sales numbers and they were correct.

I had no idea sports car sales were falling off a cliff.

Seems like Millenials are the ones to blame according to the article.

Same is happening with the Camaro and Corvette.

Enjoy these cars while we can. Soon they will be Dinosaurs.

http://www.nydailynews.com/featured...uld-signal-end-of-an-era-20180910-story.html#

DETROIT (AP) — Sales of new American muscle cars are falling, raising questions in Detroit and elsewhere about whether a nostalgic, high-horsepower cruising culture that dates to before the 1950s is in peril.

Yet U.S. sales of the iconic Mustang, which leads the segment in 2018, fell 13 percent in 2016, almost 23 percent last year and 5 percent during the first half of this year.

Schuster said the risk is low, but it's still possible, that the muscle car segment could be dying. It won't happen within the next five years, but after that, he said the risk rises. "You're losing a market unless you do something with the vehicle that appeals more to a younger buyer," he said.

Since 2015 Mustang sales are down 41%.

Maybe you should point out the correlation of 2015 being a brand-new Mustang, whereas some of the “new-body” appeal fades gradually year by year....

Yes 2018 has some improvements over the 2015-2017, but outside of enthusiasts (many of us here in the forum), the general public likely buys cars based on price and looks. 99 out of 100 people wouldn’t know the difference between a 2015/2018, heck the number is probably even higher than that.

Try and dig up some intel on the prior generation and see if year over year sales had mild declines each year until a fresh model rolled out for the 2015MY.

 

[Bladex10]

Let me guess, This is reason #2393 on why youre not going to buy a GT350 now?

 

[Zathras]

One other factor that I think is hurting sales of performance cars, is that congested urban/suburban roads plus rigorous traffic enforcement mean that lots of people live in areas where you can't safely tap into your car's potential. Driving in or near Austin, most of the time, I'm stuck in stop and go traffic--going no faster than the Priuses, F-250s, and mommyvans clogging the roads ahead and around me.

 

[YOLO]

Maybe you should point out the correlation of 2015 being a brand-new Mustang, whereas some of the “new-body” appeal fades gradually year by year....

Yes 2018 has some improvements over the 2015-2017, but outside of enthusiasts (many of us here in the forum), the general public likely buys cars based on price and looks. 99 out of 100 people wouldn’t know the difference between a 2015/2018, heck the number is probably even higher than that.

Try and dig up some intel on the prior generation and see if year over year sales had mild declines each year until a fresh model rolled out for the 2015MY.

Did anyone read the article? http://www.nydailynews.com/featured...uld-signal-end-of-an-era-20180910-story.html#

Muscle car fans consider the Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro and Corvette, and the Dodge Challenger and Charger to be the mainstays of Detroit performance cars. But their combined sales fell 7 percent in 2016, 11 percent last year, and are down almost 10 percent for the first half of 2018, according to numbers provided by Kelley Blue Book.

It's not just Mustang sales but American high-performance cars. They are ALL down.

The Trend is down which is not good.

Less profits = Less Research & Development = Less New Models & Improvements

Passenger cars and high performance internal combustible engine cars are in decline.

Everything today is Hybrid/EV crap.

Look what Forbes said this week: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/20...e-is-a-dead-man-walking-updated/#2e6fe147603f

"Seven Reasons Why The Internal Combustion Engine Is A Dead Man Walking"

Finally -

And if none of that convinces you, maybe check out the rest of the specs for the Tesla Roadster - 0-100kmh (0-60mph) in 1.9 seconds, top speed of 400kmh (250mph), and range of 1,000km (620 miles).

Or maybe watch a Tesla Model S race a Boeing 737, or even more incredibly, watch a Tesla Model X set a Guinness world record by towing a Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

And I haven't even mentioned the growing list of cities that are passing legislation to ban diesel engined vehicles from driving on their streets!

One last thought, when electric vehicles start to become more common, drivers of internal combustion engine vehicles will be thought of the way smokers are regarded today.

And, as fewer petrol (gas) stations will be needed, so they will either need to close down, or convert to electric fuelling stations.

As they are shuttered, people with internal combustion engine vehicles will have to travel further and further to find a place to fill up.

This inevitable vicious circle means it really is game over for the internal combustion engine.

You can thank the Kalifornia whackos.

 

[Digitalwiz]

Did anyone read the article? http://www.nydailynews.com/featured...uld-signal-end-of-an-era-20180910-story.html#

Muscle car fans consider the Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro and Corvette, and the Dodge Challenger and Charger to be the mainstays of Detroit performance cars. But their combined sales fell 7 percent in 2016, 11 percent last year, and are down almost 10 percent for the first half of 2018, according to numbers provided by Kelley Blue Book.

It's not just Mustang sales but American high-performance cars. They are ALL down.

The Trend is down which is not good.

Less profits = Less Research & Development = Less New Models & Improvements

Passenger cars and high performance internal combustible engine cars are in decline.

Everything today is Hybrid/EV crap.

Look what Forbes said this week: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/20...e-is-a-dead-man-walking-updated/#2e6fe147603f

"Seven Reasons Why The Internal Combustion Engine Is A Dead Man Walking"

Finally -

And if none of that convinces you, maybe check out the rest of the specs for the Tesla Roadster - 0-100kmh (0-60mph) in 1.9 seconds, top speed of 400kmh (250mph), and range of 1,000km (620 miles).

Or maybe watch a Tesla Model S race a Boeing 737, or even more incredibly, watch a Tesla Model X set a Guinness world record by towing a Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

And I haven't even mentioned the growing list of cities that are passing legislation to ban diesel engined vehicles from driving on their streets!

One last thought, when electric vehicles start to become more common, drivers of internal combustion engine vehicles will be thought of the way smokers are regarded today.

And, as fewer petrol (gas) stations will be needed, so they will either need to close down, or convert to electric fuelling stations.

As they are shuttered, people with internal combustion engine vehicles will have to travel further and further to find a place to fill up.

This inevitable vicious circle means it really is game over for the internal combustion engine.

You can thank the Kalifornia whackos.

On the upside, you now have a limited production mustang....

 

[Cobra Jet]

I read that new article the other day on another automotive news site...

Whoever wrote that article is being paid to push the SUV agenda... and it’s very clear from the biased tone of the entire article. Muscle Cars are not going away any time soon.

Quotes from the article as to the AUTHOR’s reasoning why Muscle Cars are going to be extinct:

1) Baby boomers, who buy many of the muscle cars, are getting older.

2) They just don't have the same appeal that they did previously," said Jeff Schuster, a senior vice president at the forecasting firm LMC Automotive. "Big, loud engines and noisy V8s, it just doesn't draw the same attention and I think interest with the younger crowd."

3) Most muscle cars are owned by Baby Boomers, roughly 74 million people who were born from 1946 through 1964. But the youngest of the boomers are in their mid-50s now, and many are past their peak earning years and don't have the money for a third car to go cruising. As the generation ages and enters retirement years, they'll buy fewer new vehicles and fewer muscle cars will be sold.

4) The big question is whether millennials, now 22 to 37, will be interested in a rumbling performance car.

Show me ONE Automotive Enthusiast who does not find a big, loud engine and noisy V8 appealing coming from any type of Muscle Car (classic or modern), and where the same Auto Enthusiast from the 22-37 age group does not find a rumbling performance car appealing.

All the car shows I have been to over the years have a wide demographic of folks from all age groups, male or female, who love Muscle cars, be it modern or classic - not to mention the owners of said vehicles in general who don’t go to car shows.

Once someone buys a Muscle Car (again modern or classic), it’s not their last....

That article needs to be tossed into the *cough, cough* “fake news” bin... it’s BS.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I prefer the c6 guys that have the balls to use the same name. Here and there. Doesn’t mean I agree with em. But can at least respect em a little.

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