MT-82 Improvements

[wtb6mtv8rwd]

I don't get how people can install the same mod (eg aftermarket shifter) and some get lot of NVH and others none at all. I've observed this mixed feedback throughout the forum. Are you guys sure things are installed and adjusted properly? Nothing touching something it shouldn't? Proper clearance with other components? Nuts and bolts torqued to spec?

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[Hadelson]

I don't get how people can install the same mod (eg aftermarket shifter) and some get lot of NVH and others none at all. I've observed this mixed feedback throughout the forum. Are you guys sure things are installed and adjusted properly? Nothing touching something it shouldn't? Proper clearance with other components? Nuts and bolts torqued to spec?

Have you actually looked and handled both Shifters.? The MGW is just a better design. I did both installs and everything installed/torqued correctly

 

[wtb6mtv8rwd]

Have you actually looked and handled both Shifters.? The MGW is just a better design. I did both installs and everything installed/torqued correctly

I meant, for one given shifter, like the MGW.
Not comparing across different manufacturers or designs.

 

[Elp_jc]

It's frustrating some folks say MGW has no NVH, and others it has a lot. It's impossible for both to be true with the same part on the same car. The simple fact it ties the shifter to the chassis it WILL have NVH; the only question is how much more. Some folks might not find it objectionable, or have other mods (like a super loud exhaust) that prevents them to notice it. But that doens't mean it's not there.

At any rate, my question is: Under which conditions can you feel a shifting improvement when using the transmission bridge bracket that blocks just the 2 outer holes (not the big middle one)? Curious if it's needed when you don't quick-shift. Does it fix the slight 2-3 'nibble'? Thx.

 

[shogun32]

At any rate, my question is: Under which conditions can you feel a shifting improvement when using the transmission bridge bracket that blocks just the 2 outer holes (not the big middle one)? Curious if it's needed when you don't quick-shift. Does it fix the slight 2-3 'nibble'?

you want the Steeda shifter bracket for any kind of shift improvement.
https://www.steeda.com/steeda-s550-mustang-shifter-base-bushing-bracket-kit-2015-all-555-7092.html

The 'bridge bracket' you're referring to is nothing of the sort. It's just a polymer insert that fills in the gap and has a good chance of increasing NVH but not to IMO the point where it's objectionable.

 

[wtb6mtv8rwd]

It's frustrating some folks say MGW has no NVH, and others it has a lot. It's impossible for both to be true with the same part on the same car.

That's exactly what I was saying. Makes no sense. Which is why I questioned the install.

The simple fact it ties the shifter to the chassis it WILL have NVH; the only question is how much more.

Not necessarily. On BMWs all shifters are transmission mounted. There is no NVH. There's a lot of rubber involved - you might hear people calling BMW shifters rubbery- but a lockout is something that's completely unheard of. And some of those cars use Getrag transmissions as well.

You have a stationary rod on which the shifter pivots on. The front of this rod is bolted to the trans (rubber bushing). The rear to the transmission tunnel. This is the only connection to the frame and it is made via a supple rubber bushing. The bottom of the shifter is linked to the selector rod which shifts the gears.

On race (road course) cars, people sometime upgrade to chassis mounted shifters (and delete the stationary rod) but these only work if you also upgrade your engine and transmission mounts to solid units. Otherwise your engine and trans move around while your shifter doesn't and you can't find your gear (especially in a corner!).

I gotta say coming from BMWs I was surprised to find out Ford is using a chassis mounted shifter on a factory street car with soft bushings. It's no wonder people are having issues.

 

[wtb6mtv8rwd]

Welp, just found out the Ford setup is actually pretty similar with the front of the shifter bolted to the trans and the one chassis mount bushing on the rear

 

[TeeLew]

I sourced a clutch spring on my own. It has less than 1/2 the rate as the Steeda spring. It's basically just enough so the pedal doesn't rattle when it's at rest.

Would anyone be interested in that for about $10?

 

[Brian@BMVK]

I take it back, Ford's MT82 is a gigantic POS

 

[TeeLew]

I take it back, Ford's MT82 is a gigantic POS

Something new or same old? Honestly, I think 6-speed boxes behind big V-8's are silly. 5 is plenty and they're much stronger.

 

[ice445]

I take it back, Ford's MT82 is a gigantic POS

Why, what broke lol

 

[Brian@BMVK]

Why, what broke lol

2nd started popping out of gear when I hit bumps very recently and now it won't stay in at all. 2nd gear syncro has been struggling for a year, but the effect on regular and even performance driving has been minimal, and that is again the fault of the clutch. This one feels like it's a fork/fork pad that's bad. Who knows the state of the gears...

I completed 6 autocross runs today and only one of them the trans didn't pop out of 2nd.

 

[ice445]

2nd started popping out of gear when I hit bumps very recently and now it won't stay in at all. 2nd gear syncro has been struggling for a year, but the effect on regular and even performance driving has been minimal, and that is again the fault of the clutch. This one feels like it's a fork/fork pad that's bad. Who knows the state of the gears...

I completed 6 autocross runs today and only one of them the trans didn't pop out of 2nd.

Mileage? Sounds like she's about done for though. Luckily a Tremec 3160 swap is pretty straightforward.

 

[Brian@BMVK]

Mileage? Sounds like she's about done for though. Luckily a Tremec 3160 swap is pretty straightforward.

86k.

Its not that straightforward...I also prefer the gearing of the 15-17 MT82.

 

[cactus_kid]

I take it back, Ford's MT82 is a gigantic POS

That's because you have a '15 MY. Drive a '19 or newer with the upgrades. You will sing a different song.

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