MSRP GT350

[DrumReaper]

Not at all. Whether it eventually will be easy to get a GT350 at MSRP is the thing that is anyone's guess.

I can tell you this Hack... The window of opportunity is closing fast for the opportunity to be able to lock these down at MSRP. Members can call me business-wise stupid all they want, cause come fall 2016, we may see a GT500 anniversary car declared and if that's the case, say goodbye to the 350.

The two can't coexist.

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[sticker]

I'm trying to understand what Jim Owens stated as being described as a theory? Is there a belief he is trying to mislead us? I would have to believe Ford has a S550 life cycle plan for which they will follow to include limited production vehicles.

Hey yeah man, we're all good here. I really think that the confusion about this stuff usually begins with some very brief, general statements from Ford that then get morphed, exaggerated, or chiseled in granite by the retailers who stand to benefit from any perception of shortage that can be fostered. The manufacturer should considering their past track record with each and every SE Mustang state that the initial production numbers are targets or estimates that can be adjusted with time and strong sales. These adjustments have been northward with the exception of the Ford GT where production was terminated shy of original target. None of this is the fault of you, me, or anyone else in the enthusiast community.

I really would like to purchase a '16 GT350 but will not consider any premium beyond the manufacturers tag. I understand that there are some in certain markets who will pay more to be an early adopter and that is their business and fine for them provided they understand that the premium is cash simply thrown away. Later adopters will find better pricing and likely some of the initial bugs ironed out. Hopefully we all find the car that is right for us with the color of choice and compliment of options that suits our individual tastes.

 

[Hack]

I can tell you this Hack... The window of opportunity is closing fast for the opportunity to be able to lock these down at MSRP. Members can call me business-wise stupid all they want, cause come fall 2016, we may see a GT500 anniversary car declared and if that's the case, say goodbye to the 350.

The two can't coexist.

It's possible you are right. It's possible others that think it will become easier next year are correct. Only time will tell.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

Hey yeah man, we're all good here. I really think that the confusion about this stuff usually begins with some very brief, general statements from Ford that then get morphed, exaggerated, or chiseled in granite by the retailers who stand to benefit from any perception of shortage that can be fostered. The manufacturer should considering their past track record with each and every SE Mustang state that the initial production numbers are targets or estimates that can be adjusted with time and strong sales. These adjustments have been northward with the exception of the Ford GT where production was terminated shy of original target. None of this is the fault of you, me, or anyone else in the enthusiast community.

I really would like to purchase a '16 GT350 but will not consider any premium beyond the manufacturers tag. I understand that there are some in certain markets who will pay more to be an early adopter and that is their business and fine for them provided they understand that the premium is cash simply thrown away. Later adopters will find better pricing and likely some of the initial bugs ironed out. Hopefully we all find the car that is right for us with the color of choice and compliment of options that suits our individual tastes.

If you want one at MSRP those deals are still out there.You just have to make the calls..I was calling for a "R" in Florida and found 1 non "R" at MSRP....I will not share the info as it back fired on me...but I will say this its in the upper half of Florida... Here is a srcipt on what to say.

"hello..new car sales" (the cars sales answers) Yes, my names is________ I would like to know if you have an allotment of a 2016 Mustang Shelby GT350? (This will catch them off guard and you have to let it register for a minute...then they will say something like I dont know..) "well can you put me on hold and ask your sales manager" (okay hold) its that simple...:headbonk:

 

[Blk2015GT]

Everyone loves to put things into absolutes. There is only "ALL dealers are asking ADM" or contrary "it is ALWAYS possible to get on MSRP." THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES. There are roughly 3,300 Ford dealerships and EACH (or almost each some owners own multiple) independently owned.

Will some people get one MSRP? Yes. Will some people have to pay ADM to get one? Yes.

Do we know 100% they will not make the 5,001st car? No. Has Ford said 5,000? Yes. Again, another no one knows.

If you 100% want to get one act now. You never know if the 5,000 statement will hold or not, despite what some of the wanna-be on Ford Board of Directors around here like to pretend that they know better.

Until the word from Ford changes or the 5,001st car is built, you can only go by the official word which is 5,000. Prior years mean diddly squat as this is a whole new platform- 2005-2014 was the S197, this is the S550. They are also using MORE new parts on the GT350 from stock vs. re-using a lot of the suspension etc on the GT500 from stock; we have no idea what the yield of these parts from 3rd party suppliers are (especially on the R like the carbon fiber wheels)

 

[350Mike]

5000 cars is not limited production. 500 is limited production. There are probably more then 20+ GT350/R rolling off the line every day. That's a lot of cars for people to be all worried. ALL the dealers I've spoke with are having a hard time getting a mark up. So everyone keep calm!

 

[krt22]

5000 cars is not limited production. 500 is limited production. There are probably more then 20+ GT350/R rolling off the line every day. That's a lot of cars for people to be all worried. ALL the dealers I've spoke with are having a hard time getting a mark up. So everyone keep calm!

I agree I doubt the NorCal dealers asking 20k+ over are getting it, but that's not to say they are going to drop to msrp anytime soon. Not until after they have sat on the lot for awhile

 

[sticker]

Everyone loves to put things into absolutes. There is only "ALL dealers are asking ADM" or contrary "it is ALWAYS possible to get on MSRP." THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES. There are roughly 3,300 Ford dealerships and EACH (or almost each some owners own multiple) independently owned.

Will some people get one MSRP? Yes. Will some people have to pay ADM to get one? Yes.

Do we know 100% they will not make the 5,001st car? No. Has Ford said 5,000? Yes. Again, another no one knows.

If you 100% want to get one act now. You never know if the 5,000 statement will hold or not, despite what some of the wanna-be on Ford Board of Directors around here like to pretend that they know better.

Until the word from Ford changes or the 5,001st car is built, you can only go by the official word which is 5,000. Prior years mean diddly squat as this is a whole new platform- 2005-2014 was the S197, this is the S550. They are also using MORE new parts on the GT350 from stock vs. re-using a lot of the suspension etc on the GT500 from stock; we have no idea what the yield of these parts from 3rd party suppliers are (especially on the R like the carbon fiber wheels)

I think the majority of us realize that this GT350 is the S550 chasis and is different from the prior S197. Exactly why would 3rd party vendors be unable to provide additional parts for the GT350 should sales trends warrant as they did with the GT500s? Is there some magical component here that the rest of us are unaware of? Your post is puzzling at best.

 

[350Mike]

Chrysler regular production runs in the 90's were 2000-3000 on the Lebron GT/C they never had an ADM.... Hahah

 

[Blk2015GT]

I think the majority of us realize that this GT350 is the S550 chasis and is different from the prior S197. Exactly why would 3rd party vendors be unable to provide additional parts for the GT350 should sales trends warrant as they did with the GT500s? Is there some magical component here that the rest of us are unaware of? Your post is puzzling at best.

Meaning that the platform as a whole has been on sale for under a year still. It's not like the platform is 5 years old and parts in general are flowing plentiful in excess. All of the GT350 parts started for a 0 supply being a completely new platform.

For example take a 2009 GT500 had parts on the shelf for 2 years when it came out; they didn't change dramatically over the body style run until 2010 changeover to the larger engine. Even on the 2016 to 2015 Mustangs, they re-use parts year to year when there are no dramatic changes and don't need to ramp up production on parts starting from 0.

Part suppliers can only crank out so many parts so fast. It's one possibility that it may be a part constraint issue at least the first year or so, so they capped production numbers when stated.

The carbon fiber wheels are one example. Who knows how fast the company can crank out CF parts for the R wheels.

 

[DrumReaper]

The carbon fiber wheels are one example. Who knows how fast the company can crank out CF parts for the R wheels.

Don't forget the carbon front support. No doubt, those take time to produce...

Also, there are the aluminum bumper beams which are not regular production...

Then there's the whole front end sheetmetal/hood... totally different and unique to this car.

Another... the hats/rotors... totally unique and a totally new casting process.

All of these factors, including the CF wheels, have to be considered.

 

[sticker]

Chrysler is selling as many hellcats as it can build. They also put the hellcat into the Charger and will put it into their Jeep. It is already proven that Halo doesn't have to be limited.

Exactly and it is the reality of corporate automobile production and marketing.

 

[jjw]

Remember Ford had to sign a branding contract with Shelby America. You really think Shelby would agree to have Ford produce as many as possible? Who wins in that deal by diluting the brand of what is deemed a car manufacturer's halo car?

You think Shelby Licensing is calling the shots on production numbers with Ford as a matter of brand management?
Let me guess... You also think Ford put extensive effort into engineering a highly balanced and cost effective package they can promote as a huge performance value just to have that "value" destroyed by huge ADMs and very limited production?
There will be enough cars to go around.

 

[jjw]

I can tell you this Hack... The window of opportunity is closing fast for the opportunity to be able to lock these down at MSRP. Members can call me business-wise stupid all they want, cause come fall 2016, we may see a GT500 anniversary car declared and if that's the case, say goodbye to the 350.

The two can't coexist.

Please explain why the two can't coexist.

 

[eric n]

I can tell you this Hack... The window of opportunity is closing fast for the opportunity to be able to lock these down at MSRP. Members can call me business-wise stupid all they want, cause come fall 2016, we may see a GT500 anniversary car declared and if that's the case, say goodbye to the 350.

The two can't coexist.

The Boss 302 and the GT500 coexisted. I think the GT350 is just the boss taken another level or 2 or 3. They can coexist just fine. The 350 will be the rapier of d'Artagnan and the 500 will be the Hammer of Thor.

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