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You think Shelby Licensing is calling the shots on production numbers with Ford as a matter of brand management?
Let me guess... You also think Ford put extensive effort into engineering a highly balanced and cost effective package they can promote as a huge performance value just to have that "value" destroyed by huge ADMs and very limited production?
There will be enough cars to go around.
Excellent post from someone who obviously is able to see through the hype. Some of the stuff in these threads that people believe is absolutely amazing. As if Ford is out to under produce a vehicle and sell fewer than what would be possible providing these fewer buyers with some kind of a rare collectable, NOT. It is also quite entertaining to listen to what people believe goes on between Ford and SAI. Shelby dictates nothing to Ford. Ford put SAI on life support 10 years ago with their use of the Shelby moniker. Look up their stock(CSBI) if you wanna see the level of clout that exists. 8 cents/ share, a joke.
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You think Shelby Licensing is calling the shots on production numbers with Ford as a matter of brand management?

Let me guess... You also think Ford put extensive effort into engineering a highly balanced and cost effective package they can promote as a huge performance value just to have that "value" destroyed by huge ADMs and very limited production?

There will be enough cars to go around.

It is a negotiated branding contract....period. Ford does not own the Shelby name. Jim Owens already stated the one Shelby will phase out while the other comes in. Wow. You have some amazing selective reading skills. Go read again before you make yourself sound more uninformed. Better yet Google search, read the interviews, etc for yourself.
 

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The Boss 302 and the GT500 coexisted. I think the GT350 is just the boss taken another level or 2 or 3. They can coexist just fine. The 350 will be the rapier of d'Artagnan and the 500 will be the Hammer of Thor.
How much was a B302? How much was a 2013 Shelby GT500?

Fast forward...

GT350 is $50K+... GT500 will no doubt be higher than a 350. Add into the mix a new Raptor and a new GT and you've got too much performance crossover.

Won't work. Plus I think it was said that Jim Owens said the two won't coexist. His word is better than mine.
 

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Sticker you stated 10,000 and 20,000 GT350's in a year. Not going to happen. Don't care what economics theory you state because your logic is severely flawed furthermore you actually suck some into your nonsense. 5-6,000 probably per year been stated time and time again with facts to support it. Will ADM's eventfully subside of course they will. Will everyone obtain one that wants one? If patient yes but many will move on. ADM's I would suspect will not disappear for the R at 500-700 produced each year as Jim Owens stated if he has his way. Supply of parts have a whole lot to do with how many they can produce as well. Just ask Dodge.
 

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How much was a B302? How much was a 2013 Shelby GT500?

Fast forward...

GT350 is $50K+... GT500 will no doubt be higher than a 350. Add into the mix a new Raptor and a new GT and you've got too much performance crossover.

Won't work. Plus I think it was said that Jim Owens said the two won't coexist. His word is better than mine.
2013 Boss Base 43k

2013 Boss Laguna Seca started at $50k

2013 GT500 Started at $54k

I expect the new GT500 to be $70k - 75k Base Price and worth every dime.
 

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It is a negotiated branding contract....period. Ford does not own the Shelby name. Jim Owens already stated the one Shelby will phase out while the other comes in. Wow. You have some amazing selective reading skills. Go read again before you make yourself sound more uninformed. Better yet Google search, read the interviews, etc for yourself.
I've ready plenty of bad info on the web. I also get my info from plenty of real world legit sources.
 

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Sticker you stated 10,000 and 20,000 GT350's in a year. Not going to happen. Don't care what economics theory you state because your logic is severely flawed furthermore you actually suck some into your nonsense. 5-6,000 probably per year been stated time and time again with facts to support it. Will ADM's eventfully subside of course they will. Will everyone obtain one that wants one? If patient yes but many will move on. ADM's I would suspect will not disappear for the R at 500-700 produced each year as Jim Owens stated if he has his way. Supply of parts have a whole lot to do with how many they can produce as well. Just ask Dodge.


Please, please, do not quote me as saying that as I never did. Thank You.

What I said was 5,000 would sell without much difficulty. 8,000 could be possible. I respect the fact that some here may have other expectations.

These are very expensive Mustangs as were the later years of the GT500s. The market for a Mustang that costs its owner 60 grand or more out the door is extremely small and saturates very quickly. That exact scenario is currently playing out with the 1st year C7 Z06. Crazy hype, ADMs, and nonsense last fall. Local dealer that does a respectable Corvette volume now has 4 of them on his lot with bird crap splattered all over them.
 
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Please, please, do not quote me as saying that as I never did. Thank You.

What I said was 5,000 would sell without much difficulty. 8,000 could be possible.
Ford would sell 8,00 with no problem.

But, likely they won't...
 

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5000 cars is not limited production. 500 is limited production. There are probably more then 20+ GT350/R rolling off the line every day. That's a lot of cars for people to be all worried. ALL the dealers I've spoke with are having a hard time getting a mark up. So everyone keep calm!
Yes for about 25 days and they will be done...that's 500. (but they are not going to make that many in a month) if you think their (Ford) going to produce 5000 "R"s because they can sell them your crazy, and delusional. What do you base this on, and don't give the crap about the past...where do you get this from in writing from a Ford rep?
 

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I've ready plenty of bad info on the web. I also get my info from plenty of real world legit sources.

Ok, I get it Jim Owens interview is not a legitimate source....I was referencing legitimate sources only.
 

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Please, please, do not quote me as saying that as I never did. Thank You.

What I said was 5,000 would sell without much difficulty. 8,000 could be possible. I respect the fact that some here may have other expectations.

These are very expensive Mustangs as were the later years of the GT500s. The market for a Mustang that costs its owner 60 grand or more out the door is extremely small and saturates very quickly. That exact scenario is currently playing out with the 1st year C7 Z06. Crazy hype, ADMs, and nonsense last fall. Local dealer that does a respectable Corvette volume now has 4 of them on his lot with bird crap splattered all over them.
Well you had started with this and then repeatedly stated they will build as many as they can sell. But hey at least I see you are coming around to a number that seems reasonable.:thumbsup:

They made 11,000 first year GT500s for the previous generation, highly unlikely that they would hold the build to 137 units when many thousands could be sold. The handful of '15 GT350s is obviously a fluke and the automotive equivalent of and after thought.
 

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That exact scenario is currently playing out with the 1st year C7 Z06. Crazy hype, ADMs, and nonsense last fall. Local dealer that does a respectable Corvette volume now has 4 of them on his lot with bird crap splattered all over them.
You must be getting your C7 information from the same source as your Mustang information. I have spent the last 15 years deeply immersed in and working in the Corvette world, and ADM has never been an issue for the regular C7 or C7 Z06. There's plenty of supply - and some pretty significant discounts - for all Corvettes, except for ones with certain equipment that temporarily are limited due to parts shortages for things like carbon fiber hood inserts.
 

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You must be getting your C7 information from the same source as your Mustang information. I have spent the last 15 years deeply immersed in and working in the Corvette world, and ADM has never been an issue for the regular C7 or C7 Z06. There's plenty of supply - and some pretty significant discounts - for all Corvettes, except for ones with certain equipment that temporarily are limited due to parts shortages for things like carbon fiber hood inserts.
And no shortage of backup LS motors...:D
 

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Well you had started with this and then repeatedly stated they will build as many as they can sell. But hey at least I see you are coming around to a number that seems reasonable.:thumbsup:
As many others here have told you, yes, expect Ford to build as many as they can sell as they have done with each preceding SE Mustang. The unanswered question is whether they would be able to sell 8,000 units at these prices. Seriously doubt if 10,000 would clear the market without some incentives.
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