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As many others here have told you, yes, expect Ford to build as many as they can sell as they have done with each preceding SE Mustang. The unanswered question is whether they would be able to sell 8,000 units at these prices. Seriously doubt if 10,000 would clear the market without some incentives.
There you are...nope same stripes :doh:....Ok then what is your theory of why Ford is providing allocations? Why can't dealers get more allocations then? Hell why do allocations at all and do what Dodge did with the Hellcat? We know how poorly that is going. So please.....enlighten us?
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You must be getting your C7 information from the same source as your Mustang information. I have spent the last 15 years deeply immersed in and working in the Corvette world, and ADM has never been an issue for the regular C7 or C7 Z06. There's plenty of supply - and some pretty significant discounts - for all Corvettes, except for ones with certain equipment that temporarily are limited due to parts shortages for things like carbon fiber hood inserts.
There were ADMs here in CA on the C7 (esp the Z06 and Z51s) but that did not last long. Don't know if any really sold for much over sticker either, but at initial release many dealers were at least asking
 

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There you are...nope same stripes :doh:....Ok then what is your theory of why Ford is providing allocations? Why can't dealers get more allocations then? Hell why do allocations at all and do what Dodge did with the Hellcat? We know how poorly that is going. So please.....enlighten us?
Additional allocations can be forthcoming if sales warrant. Same as they did with the 1st year Gt500s, Mach1s, etc. Very simple and precisely what has transpired in the past, nothing new but obviously quite difficult for some to comprehend. Really doesn't matter though, its not something that is going to change anyones life.


Hope you don't take the bridge at this time next year when you are still fist pounding about 5,000 units and you realize that they have built 8,000 of them.
 

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Additional allocations can be forthcoming if sales warrant. Same as they did with the 1st year Gt500s, Mach1s, etc. Very simple and precisely what has transpired in the past, nothing new but obviously quite difficult for some to comprehend.

Sales demand does warrant. Dealers are asking for them so I ask again what is your theory as to why they are not giving any additional allocations?
 

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Sales demand does warrant. Dealers are asking for them so I ask again what is your theory as to why they are not giving any additional allocations?
Dealers asking and dealers who actually have buyers are 2 different things.

Also, with modern cafe standards, Ford can't just make as many gas guzzlers as they wish.

This is one thing that most of the other SE mustangs never had to content with. Every single year the fleet average must increase a known amount, so ford has to calculate very carefully just how many they can make vs how many other models they have to sell to maintain the average

With that being said, I think ford will make right around 5k cars just like the GT500, but not much more than that
 

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Sales demand does warrant. Dealers are asking for them so I ask again what is your theory as to why they are not giving any additional allocations?
Why would additional "allocations" have to be assigned right now? Do you think they will only build the '16s for a month or what Dude? It seems like you are a guy who needs to be right. What ever you say my friend.

You appear to have a very weird fixation with this 5,000 unit thing. Hope your world doesn't cave in if they make more than that #.
 

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Dealers asking and dealers who actually have buyers are 2 different things.

Also, with modern cafe standards, Ford can't just make as many gas guzzlers as they wish.

This is one thing that most of the other SE mustangs never had to content with. Every single year the fleet average must increase a known amount, so ford has to calculate very carefully just how many they can make vs how many other models they have to sell to maintain the average

With that being said, I think ford will make right around 5k cars just like the GT500, but not much more than that
I have seen the lists the local dealers have near me. They are bonafide buyers but can't even get the admission slip. I agree with you that is one of a few reasons that I can think of that will keep production in the 5-6K range. Many other reasons I and others have mentioned in this thread.

Why would additional "allocations" have to be assigned right now? Do you think they will only build the '16s for a month or what Dude? It seems like you are a guy who needs to be right. What ever you say my friend.

You appear to have a very weird fixation with this 5,000 unit thing. Hope your world doesn't cave in if they make more than that #.
That's the best you got? No weird fixation at all but claims made by you and your bandwagon continue to grasp at nothing but bullshit.

But here's my point...
LMAO...I'm done...I think I proved my point.
 

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I have seen the lists the local dealers have near me. They are bonafide buyers but can't even get the admission slip. I agree with you that is one of a few reasons that I can think of that will keep production in the 5-6K range. Many other reasons I and others have mentioned in this thread.



That's the best you got? No weird fixation at all but claims made by you and your bandwagon continue to grasp at nothing but bullshit.



LMAO...I'm done...I think I proved my point.
Why don't you lighten up Pal. Its really not that big of a deal. You seem to be the one who wants to argue here and has ended up throwing stones. I'm sure we will all enjoy these cars when they arrive and that is what matters most. Enjoy!
 

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Why is this discussion still alive? Either you believe multiple sources from Ford that have said 4,000-5,000 of the 2016 GT350s will be built or you don't. Let's move onto something else, like whatever the OP wanted to discuss! :headbonk:

 

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Here's a topic for discussion, at what point in human history was beating dead horses fashionable? Talk amongst yourselves, I'm getting verklempt.
+10000000

i can't believe this thread is still alive or open for that matter.
 

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If anyone cares, dealers can not order as many GT350's as they want; we are limited to the allocations that Ford gives us. For example, my dealer gets just two '16 GT350's for the entire 2016 model year. Each dealer has been told by Ford how many they get. Add up the allocations for each dealer and you'd almost have the entire production expectation - almost.

Ford doesn't allocate the entire model year's production upfront. They keep a reserve (probably a few hundred in the GT350's case) unallocated for later use in case a car is scrapped at the factory, destroyed in transit, lost in a natural disaster while awaiting shipment to the dealer, etc. As the model year progresses, especially near the very end of the model year, Ford will start to allocate what's left of the reserve.

Some historical examples from my dealership: in 2006 we were told we'd get 5 '07 GT500's. We got a 6th one allocated to us at the end of the model year. In 2012, we were allocated 3 '12 Boss 302's and got only the 3, yet in 2013 we were only allocated 2 '13 Boss 302's, yet managed to get an additional allocation near the end of the model year. So, sometimes extra allocation is there to hand out, sometimes it isn't.

Bosses, Shelbys, and SVT's have always been allocated. Other SE's (Mach 1's, Bullitts, & GT/CS's) were not. Allocated cars typically don't see big upticks in production beyond the initial allocation. Oh sure, additional model years may come about (like the GT500's being offered from 2007-2014 instead of the initial few years originally anticipated). But, the annual production numbers typically don't go up much, if any.

I've worked at the same Ford dealership for 16 years and have been involved and doing the ordering for our Mustangs, SVT's, and Shelbys that whole time. Ford is quite predictable in how they'll handle the GT350's for 2016 & 2017 based on what they told us when we signed up for the program and what they've done in the past with similar models. What isn't as easy to predict is what Ford will do after 2017; will they continue offering GT350's or will another model replace it? We can only speculate about the 2018's and beyond.
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