MGW GT350 shifter - second run

[DrumReaper]

The big question I have is, can MGW expand production so Ford can offer the MGW shifter as an factory installed option on the GT350 R ?

Huh? Why?

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[Epiphany]

The big question I have is, can MGW expand production so Ford can offer the MGW shifter as an factory installed option on the GT350 R ?

At 500 R models per year, MGW could easily handle that. At that, they just recently purchased and installed some high dollar CNC equipment to allow even greater productivity and efficiency.

The bigger question is whether the decision makers involved in the program, in this case the GT350/R, could ever get past all the corporate red tape and make it happen. Engineers are being tasked with getting acceptable performance from a given component at the least possible cost. The CF wheels are an exception here. If they were unleashed...I can only imagine what a track terror the GT350 would be.

It would be nice if Ford Racing was able to offer an R with an MGW shifter, Watson 4 point bar (supplied in a box to keep the crash gods happy), front and rear tow hooks, oil separators, etc, to cater to the track crowd. A great way to bypass the ADM fiasco as well.

 

[Rimox51]

It's short for noise, vibration and harshness. It's a pretty common industry term.

Thanks. I don't have any of those with my MGW.

The Ford shifter spring under the handle vibrated in my car and it drove me crazy

 

[try714]

Can anyone like k for the gt350 link?

 

[Epiphany]

Thanks. I don't have any of those with my MGW.

The Ford shifter spring under the handle vibrated in my car and it drove me crazy

The factory reverse lockout/collar is a poor design. It sticks on the shaft, there are spring issues such as yours, and it can lock you out of gear when shifted hard (as illustrated in the previous video). Some do prefer the pull up action that is very light with the factory design, which is fair. But it simply isn't as robust as it should be.

The MGW reverse action, push down, uses nitrided steel that was designed and manufactured to withstand an endless beating. It does require a little more effort to actuate but the payoff is that won't fail and allows adjustment if needed.

Can anyone like k for the gt350 link?

Like k?

 

[try714]

Sorry I need the link for the shifter? Thanks

 

[Epiphany]

The GT350 shifter isn't listed (yet) on MGW's site. You have to call or write to order.

https://www.mgwshifters.com/

 

[try714]

Thanks, what's the price range on it.. no wonder I looked on their website 6 months ago and it wasn't listed.

 

[2morrow]

This is a great thread, Keep up the good work!

 

[tdzee]

The big question I have is, can MGW expand production so Ford can offer the MGW shifter as an factory installed option on the GT350 R ?

I would love that idea. IIRC, don't the 350's at the Track Attack have MGW shifters? I am pretty certain the 302s on day 2 have them.

 

[DrumReaper]

I would love that idea. IIRC, don't the 350's at the Track Attack have MGW shifters? I am pretty certain the 302s on day 2 have them.

IIRC, the shifters were stock. The car I drove was notchy and compared to the MGW and I found myself searching sometimes on the 4-3 downshift as the stock shifter was trying to impede that direction.

 

[Epiphany]

Thanks, what's the price range on it.. no wonder I looked on their website 6 months ago and it wasn't listed.

I believe it's $475 but it would be best to call to verify.

I would love that idea. IIRC, don't the 350's at the Track Attack have MGW shifters? I am pretty certain the 302s on day 2 have them.

The Track Attack GT350's use the factory shifter. I attended with George and this may or may not have been discussed while I was there;). When the GT350's have been toppled by the next model and the FR track school starts running them, the GT350's may be used the "second day" much in the way the modified Boss cars are used now. That would be the perfect opportunity for the school to upgrade shifters.

 

[Voodooo]

Of the two shifters (original vs new version) which provides the best feel? Aside from the NVH.
Are there any differences in feel between the two during performance shifting? Do the viton bushings take away from the solid feel during hard shifts?

Any plans of a sequential shifter for the 3160? If so sign me up!

 

[Epiphany]

I had a good bit of seat time behind the new shifter both on the street/highway as well as the track day at Roebling. I said to George that the best thing about the shifter is that while I was hot lapping I never even thought about it. While I was concerned with my line, balancing speed with available grip, etc, the shifter simply took it in stride. I was extremely hard on the throttle/brakes and was banging shifts with finesse as much as I showed the linkage little mercy.

Something else that surprised me. For years I have seen some post about how they felt that their new shifter was a little tight (and this runs the gamut of all shifter companies) and always cringed at responses about how things would "loosen up" after use. Well, immediately after installing this latest shifter I sat in the passenger seat and George sat in the driver seat. We methodically manipulated the handle for some time. I made mental notes about feel. As mentioned, we both punished the car/shifter at the track numerous times on that day. And on the way home, about an hour into the drive, George called me from his McLaren as I followed him. He asked what I thought. It was at that moment that I realized that the shifter was even better than the moment the install was done. That the machined/heat treated/coated surfaces inside the shifter had mated perfectly, much like an engine that has been properly broken in. I stared at the shifter while cruising at speed or between shifts and it just sat there like a statue, motionless, while the Voodoo engine wailed away.

So I want to say that feel is even better than the one in my own car (and mine differed from the first run of production a little) but I am in no way unhappy with what I have in my own car. George did make some slight geometry changes after mine that were on the first run that gave you a slightly better mechanical advantage. This, after a kinesiology discussion that included the typical buyer demographic and how they would respond to the effort required in his shifter versus the stock shifter, etc.

The bushings and new arms in no way shape or form, degrade the "solid feel." They serve as a break in the path of transferrance only. There is no noticeable deflection or "mush."

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

I have a question that pertains to the feel, does the MGW unit increase or decrease the effort required to move the shifter from gate to gate?

Is it still slightly notchy like the OEM setup, or does glide smoothly into gear?

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