High Performance Ecoboost vs Performance Pack GT

[FreePenguin]

I will say if the intercooler just upgraded on any ecoboost it will yield better power throughout as it can cool better.

any ecoboost owner can benefit, I mean assuming you wot often. Few hundred bucks, it’s just about the only mod I can say is worth it.

Comes down to the sound, if you think you want v8 noise get the v8. I’m the opposite, I like a quieter sound, I am a sportbike rider, and I like sounds of a nice running 4 cylinder. It’s a clean subtle sound, not talking fart cans

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[Balr14]

Funny thing every time I pass an Audi or Beemer they always stare at the GT. I’m sure they are thinking that SOB paid way less and that car is awesome.

As a former Beemer owner I can tell you that's not what they are thinking. Just trying to decide if GT is manual or automatic. If it's manual, you're toast. A10 is much harder to beat.

 

[Mspider]

hey everybody, don't tell this guy how the overwhelming majority of mustangs in existence are not V8 cars or it'll prolly ruin his day.

ehh you can use the "overwhelming majority" thing in just about any argument. and it usually doesn't end well that for that group hehe.

 

[Mspider]

As a former Beemer owner I can tell you that's not what they are thinking. Just trying to decide if GT is manual or automatic. If it's manual, you're toast. A10 is much harder to beat.

Dude you act like most of these BMW and Benz drivers are in M cars/AMG models or something. They are not thinking that.

 

[young at heart]

We took about a 2 hour ride today on beautiful Blue Ridge Mountain foothills roads. About 80 degrees, top down and AE in track mode. The word glorious doesn’t even come close.

I have a hard time believing that very many car enthusiasts comparing the V-8 to any other Mustang engine would not choose the V-8. I’m obviously assuming that the person could afford whatever they wanted and was making a decision without spousal pressure, etc.

 

[TundraOnKings]

I can tell you that in the last week on 1500 miles mountain. Roads and towns sprinkled with urban wealth the EB HPP vert gets way more looks than my R 8 vert did and most don't notice engine other than mine is silent crusining through populated areas maybe they think it's EV haha.

They’re probably wondering why you put such a quiet exhaust system on it

In all seriousness of this thread, every person that chooses a vehicle does so for their own reasons. In my opinion, the Mustang was built as an American muscle car V8, an icon. I never owned a V8 sports car, and with all the EV bullshit coming, decided this worked for me -it was within budget.
Most people looking at a new car, have a budget. And budgets suck, they require a nice little Pros and Cons list.
If you can squeak out a few more $$$K - the 5.0 is wonderful and rewarding.

I’m researching new daily drivers right now, and have tossed around the M3, M4, M5, RS3, RS7, S6, IS500, and even the smaller M240I and Supra.
All are almost entirely different cars, but here pretty soon my daughter will be old enough to drive, and I won’t need a rear seat - so options become almost endless. I’ll create my Pros/Cons list after test driving them all, and make a determination. My main concern is comfort mixed with fun/rewarding daily driving, that’s safe, and keeps me out of trouble. A RWD 5.0 Mustang is definitely not a DD for me (worst traction control system I’ve ever seen) I’ll keep my GT for track only purposes.
Budget does have some to do with my choice, thankfully it’s not what I’ll base my choice off of, but it will be considered. Cost of ownership is on the Pro/Con list.
I really want an M5 for performance, and option of larger seating - but the price, mixed with the larger car feel/weight - points me more towards an M3/M4. But then I’ve read the new M240i is a track monster that’s incredibly nimble and fun, even for a DD. My favorite car test driving on the road, and the track, was the Supra. Since I already have the V8 I wanted, now that’s an option. I dunno - we’ll see. Lot’s of test drives in the near future.

 

[ice445]

Well this thread got interesting fast, lol. At the end of the day unless you have some skill and track experience, it doesn't matter which car you buy. You'll get lapped by some old dude in a stock miata.

I feel like the GT is also harder on tires and brakes due to the extra weight and speeds you hit.

 

[TundraOnKings]

Thank you, this is exactly the kind of educated opinion I'm looking for.

**Side note**
If you do plan on running a GT PP1 on track frequently for the normal 20min sessions, you WILL need trans/oil coolers - and rear diff mods (I did BG 75W-140 fluid, and titanium exhaust wrap - some folks require a rear diff cooler) some say you won’t need any additional cooling at all, I believed them, and I was wrong - first track day.
$3K from a racecar shop for A10 Trans and oil cooler. Still trying to cool oil even more, after the mods.

 

[ice445]

**Side note**
If you do plan on running a GT PP1 on track frequently for the normal 20min sessions, you WILL need trans/oil coolers - and rear diff mods (I did BG 75W-140 fluid, and titanium exhaust wrap - some folks require a rear diff cooler) some say you won’t need any additional cooling at all, I believed them, and I was wrong - first track day.
$3K from a racecar shop for A10 Trans and oil cooler. Still trying to cool oil even more, after the mods.

You only need coolers if you're fast lol. Thats the truth of it

 

[TundraOnKings]

Well this thread got interesting fast, lol. At the end of the day unless you have some skill and track experience, it doesn't matter which car you buy. You'll get lapped by some old dude in a stock miata.

I feel like the GT is also harder on tires and brakes due to the extra weight and speeds you hit.

LMAO - very true. But it’s not hard to make a GT PP1 a very capable track machine. I really do believe the Mach1 is the *Ultimate Bargain Track Machine*. It clicks off soooo many points on the Pro list.
There is a lot of those Miata guys that swear they’re faster in corners than you, so no point-bys and unfortunately you’re stuck going 110MPH down the straight vs 135mph
“EMPTY YOUR MIRRORS” should be written on every mirror in a car, sold in the US.
I love how Miata’s fly around corners, but ultimately, if you can really drive a correctly built decent S550 GT with camber, and 285+, you’re in their mirrors.

 

[TundraOnKings]

You only need coolers if you're fast lol. Thats the truth of it

LOL! No, not true!

 

[MD18EcoStang]

I'm in the camp that a muscle car has to be a V8 (with my only exception being the old Grand Nationals). I grew up with several Fox bodies and I remember the stigma of those who got the 4cyl. It just wasn't a Mustang TO ME -- it was to appeal to the people who wanted to look like they drove a muscle car when they didn't (and they sold volume).

I do feel compelled to point out the major difference between those cars and today's EB powered 2.3s. I once had the (admittedly, sad) occasion to daily drive an 87 Mustang LX 2.3 sedan. I've seen specs that rated that engine anywhere from 88 to 90 HP. And I think the mushy AT of the time actually robbed a good portion of that power. It was definitely not even a looker, as it was tan!

Today's EB cars are night and day different. I'm not gonna say they're muscle cars, but they're more Mustang than yesteryear's base models. My first car was a 69 Mustang with a straight-six, so not a muscle car either, but you can see that's never been what I was going for. Ford saw to it that today's 2.3 could still elevate a Mustang to performance car levels, which is pretty cool, IMHO.

 

[Mspider]

I do feel compelled to point out the major difference between those cars and today's EB powered 2.3s. I once had the (admittedly, sad) occasion to daily drive an 87 Mustang LX 2.3 sedan. I've seen specs that rated that engine anywhere from 88 to 90 HP. And I think the mushy AT of the time actually robbed a good portion of that power. It was definitely not even a looker, as it was tan!

Today's EB cars are night and day different. I'm not gonna say they're muscle cars, but they're more Mustang than yesteryear's base models. My first car was a 69 Mustang with a straight-six, so not a muscle car either, but you can see that's never been what I was going for. Ford saw to it that today's 2.3 could still elevate a Mustang to performance car levels, which is pretty cool, IMHO.

I actually think the EB is a phenomenal deal for what you get. The power and looks for under 30k is something to talk about. Definitely a market for them as most mustangs on the road are EB.

 

[PetulantSenior]

I think you misunderstood. Was speaking of my point of view, and why I bought.
If you are into music buy a Benz with a Burmester.

 

[nustang]

test drove an ecoboost and gt back to back.
was unable to order an ecoboost for 6 months dealer says .. so got a year old gt off the lot. the eco tester I drove was already sold.
The ecoboost is a bit more fun in that you can stomp the pedal. Gt you have to pick the conditions and how much.
Ecoboost feels really perky, and Id be happy with the feel driving it. And save $10k.
Of course the GT is awesome too ... however really has more power than I need.

tough choice when both are available to you,

Peformance pack on either is great package to have.

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