Schwerin
Well-Known Member
I'm honestly disappointed in this as a mach1. It feels more like a "BOSS lite". mach1 is what first made me love Mustangs as a kid. My 2003 was my first mustang and my favorite car that I've owned to date. All I see here is confirmation that Ford could have done this in 2018 but just watered down the PPL2 and Bullitt because it didn't wanna hurt Shelby sales. It also makes me feel like this just means the PPL2 was more of a "beta test" to get feedback to make the mach1.
There have been many people that felt the PPL2 should have gotten a Diff cooler. Or that the Bullitt should have had a PPL2 handling package either stock or optional. To me, this mach1 just proves that Ford was just too worried that either would hurt GT350 sales. I'm not seeing anything on this that someone could not replicate with a base PPL2, and the Magneride and Power FP kits for MUCH less. You'd be missing the coolers, but you'd be saving THOUSANDS. With the fact, the 2019+ revision of the MT-82 has also given the car VERY few transmission complaints I'm also not sure the 3160 is even worth the price difference. It's also going to be trying to fight sales against used GT350's that will be thousands less than a new mach1.
They should have AT LEAST bumped it up to 500hp. As it sits the only reason I see to buy a mach1 is if you:
1. Can't drive manual or don't like manual
2. Do not already own an 18+ GT or 15+ GT350
Nothing about this car says "mach1" to me.
Thinking more about this I'm part wondering if there was a new BOSS planned ifor 2019. We already have had people saying the suspension engineers said they were told to build the PPL2 as if it were for a new BOSS car. Perhaps they decided to extend the GT350 a bit longer so that they would have no gap between it and the GT500, and also be able to say they "have two Shelby's in dealers" again. This would give Ford a suspension, tweaked 5.0, and aero they had already tested for a BOSS unused. So in 2018 they put the suspension into a GT(minus coolers). Easy enough to do as it was already designed for a 5.0 GT, just one with 20hp more. This may also be why the Bullitt is also technically nearly 1yr late for its real anniversary. It was a last-minute thought they could take advantage of as they had tested/certified the engine for the BOSS and had the extra GT350 intake parts on order and tuning done. The spoiler just went on the GT350 or was developed later. If it was developed later I suspect that during the delay they designed a new bumper to compliment the GT350 spoiler and to be less obvious than just using the PPL2 splitter.
With the GT350 staying around this gave them time to make a new bumper, and with the electric Mach1 getting backlash they decided to drop the BOSS idea and go with Mach1 to make people happy.
Possibly just all BS, but it sounds possible to me. R&D started, plans changed and they wanted to make money back on the R&D done.
There have been many people that felt the PPL2 should have gotten a Diff cooler. Or that the Bullitt should have had a PPL2 handling package either stock or optional. To me, this mach1 just proves that Ford was just too worried that either would hurt GT350 sales. I'm not seeing anything on this that someone could not replicate with a base PPL2, and the Magneride and Power FP kits for MUCH less. You'd be missing the coolers, but you'd be saving THOUSANDS. With the fact, the 2019+ revision of the MT-82 has also given the car VERY few transmission complaints I'm also not sure the 3160 is even worth the price difference. It's also going to be trying to fight sales against used GT350's that will be thousands less than a new mach1.
They should have AT LEAST bumped it up to 500hp. As it sits the only reason I see to buy a mach1 is if you:
1. Can't drive manual or don't like manual
2. Do not already own an 18+ GT or 15+ GT350
Nothing about this car says "mach1" to me.
Thinking more about this I'm part wondering if there was a new BOSS planned ifor 2019. We already have had people saying the suspension engineers said they were told to build the PPL2 as if it were for a new BOSS car. Perhaps they decided to extend the GT350 a bit longer so that they would have no gap between it and the GT500, and also be able to say they "have two Shelby's in dealers" again. This would give Ford a suspension, tweaked 5.0, and aero they had already tested for a BOSS unused. So in 2018 they put the suspension into a GT(minus coolers). Easy enough to do as it was already designed for a 5.0 GT, just one with 20hp more. This may also be why the Bullitt is also technically nearly 1yr late for its real anniversary. It was a last-minute thought they could take advantage of as they had tested/certified the engine for the BOSS and had the extra GT350 intake parts on order and tuning done. The spoiler just went on the GT350 or was developed later. If it was developed later I suspect that during the delay they designed a new bumper to compliment the GT350 spoiler and to be less obvious than just using the PPL2 splitter.
With the GT350 staying around this gave them time to make a new bumper, and with the electric Mach1 getting backlash they decided to drop the BOSS idea and go with Mach1 to make people happy.
Possibly just all BS, but it sounds possible to me. R&D started, plans changed and they wanted to make money back on the R&D done.
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