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The regular 460 hp gen3 has shown to be on multiple engine dyno’s over 490 on pump 91. The motor is a tad underrated which is always better than overrated....





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In Canada, there is no Handling Package in the order guide, nor in the factory ordering system. I am meeting with our Ford guy today to find out what is up. On the other hand, it looks like the PP1 is inheriting a lot of the PP2 parts in terms of radiators, cooling and some suspension.
I think for a track purpose car, it may best to start with the PP1 and add items as necessary to track it. With the savings compared to a Mach 1, that could mean a lot of good parts, including 18" wheels and slicks.
 

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I think for a track purpose car, it may best to start with the PP1 and add items as necessary to track it.
depending on how labor adds up, you'd be better off getting a base GT and then adding things at 50-60% of what Ford charges to put them on at the factory only to then have to toss them - namely PP1 suspension which is just garbage.
 

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depending on how labor adds up, you'd be better off getting a base GT and then adding things at 50-60% of what Ford charges to put them on at the factory only to then have to toss them - namely PP1 suspension which is just garbage.
I think the PP1 would be better because of the brakes, wheels, street tires, radiator, chassis bracing etc as a base in which to start. I have attached the order guide showing what the PP1 package includes (should be the 301A). Have a look, it may help some people decide.
 

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think the PP1 would be better because of:
Remember the stated goal was (semi-)dedicated 'track' use
  • brakes - $600-1100 from ebay or parts websites
  • wheels - heavy and worth little on resale. buy 18x10, 19x10 or wider aftermarket and save ~10lbs per corner. $600-1700
  • street tires - useless for purpose
  • radiator - WAAY better radiators available for $5-800
  • chassis bracing - trivially sourced and anyway you're gonna have to do the BMR/Steeda kitchen sink ($800-1300) to fix the chassis no matter what factory trim you buy, including the GT350
  • suspension - trash, replace with $4000 MCS/JRI or lesser $1500 solution with track-spec spring rates, exception being Magneride selected and you can live with it at the track

So instead of spending $5000-6500 on the PP1 package you can get the *right* components for the same expenditure instead of having to spend the $5k almost twice.
 

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Remember the stated goal was (semi-)dedicated 'track' use
  • brakes - $600-1100 from ebay or parts websites
  • wheels - heavy and worth little on resale. buy 18x10, 19x10 or wider aftermarket and save ~10lbs per corner. $600-1700
  • street tires - useless for purpose
  • radiator - WAAY better radiators available for $5-800
  • chassis bracing - trivially sourced and anyway you're gonna have to do the BMR/Steeda kitchen sink ($800-1300) to fix the chassis no matter what factory trim you buy, including the GT350
  • suspension - trash, replace with $4000 MCS/JRI or lesser $1500 solution with track-spec spring rates, exception being Magneride selected and you can live with it at the track

So instead of spending $5000-6500 on the PP1 package you can get the *right* components for the same expenditure instead of having to spend the $5k almost twice.
This exactly

I think it’s pretty well known that if you want to build just an allout track car, a base, no-option GT is going to be your best bet. But for those worried about warranties, something like the Mach 1 is ideal

Also, I’m glad you said MCS/JRI for coilovers... most Mustang people tend to think that BC or Fortune coilovers are the best you can get :facepalm:
 

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Dang, now I have to read the whole thread.
 

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Remember the stated goal was (semi-)dedicated 'track' use
  • brakes - $600-1100 from ebay or parts websites
  • wheels - heavy and worth little on resale. buy 18x10, 19x10 or wider aftermarket and save ~10lbs per corner. $600-1700
  • street tires - useless for purpose
  • radiator - WAAY better radiators available for $5-800
  • chassis bracing - trivially sourced and anyway you're gonna have to do the BMR/Steeda kitchen sink ($800-1300) to fix the chassis no matter what factory trim you buy, including the GT350
  • suspension - trash, replace with $4000 MCS/JRI or lesser $1500 solution with track-spec spring rates, exception being Magneride selected and you can live with it at the track

So instead of spending $5000-6500 on the PP1 package you can get the *right* components for the same expenditure instead of having to spend the $5k almost twice.
Can't believe Ford charges 5k for PP1 now. When I bought mine it was only 3k and they haven't added anything new since then.
 

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