I was in Tulsa. I really like the car. Not enough to trade the R in for but I think they did a nice job. As far as the 480 hp, you should not be surprised. Ford said a long time ago to get the HP out of the GT350 (NA) they had to go for the FPC and that was not going to happen. How much HP did your 04 make? As for the shaker, to add it the whole underside of the hood area would be taken up by Shaker components. The angle of the hood is a bit more rakish then the previous models. That required Ford to go through crash certifications again and that is costly. So yes, the aftermarket is already working on it. The car is very near the base 350. The brakes are not the same but, it has coolers as required for tracking and Cup 2's not to mention much wider wheels than the bullet on the track version. Again its not a 350 but, its better then the bullitt which was a nice car in its own rightI was the 2nd owner of an 04 Screaming Yellow Mach 1 for 8 years. Out of the 6 Mustangs I have owned since I started driving, that is still my favorite to this day (I would still have it if a teenage girl didn't sideswipe me ). I feel this model fails in two areas IMO. No Shaker and no increase in power to make it unique. I loved explaining to people that the 03-04 Mach 1s were NOT just a GT with some cosmetic changes. This is literally a Bullitt with suspension and cooling mods. You can't argue that. Ok, the Tremec, but does that really make it special? I know the aftermarket will react with a shaker kit, but it really should have come on the car. A shaker and a bump in power robbed Ford from releasing another icon.
I am still holding out for power as all of the press releases state it is "projected" to have 480 HP. Hopefully Ford is still working on this number.
And yes, I know very well that the original Machs only came with a shaker as an option. When you have a trim that is known for a shaker, which the 03-04s help cement in our heads AND a competitor (The Challenger) has their own version available RIGHT NOW, I think it was a huge missed opportunity. I love Ford and all Mustangs, but man.. they missed the mark here IMO.
I bet if the early sketches are released we will see numerous models with Shaker hoods.
Well I wouldn't hold my breath for anything over 500. I think they're just going to do a revise tune and call it a day.Yep all the Karens here getting riled up over "only" 480 hp when it explicitly states projected in the press release. Car markers don't use that terminology if the number has been set in stone. People forget that this car is homologated to other places besides us.
This is perhaps the last special edition Mustang that we get here in Europe offered directly from FoMoCo. 2021 Mach 1 offered during the last two years of the S550 platform. S560 Mustang will be hybrid as I understand. V8 probably offered however, for us in Europe with restrictions getting tighter and tighter this Mach 1 could be a sought after classic in a few short years. This mach 1 checks all the boxes for me. I intend to get one.I think you have the point. As you know european Bullit only get 460 bp because enviorement exaust limitations. If Ford wants to sell the Mach 1 in Europe needs to mantein the european bullitt engine.Europe is getting tough for "big" engines.BMW M2 Competition fininsh production on december, new 2021 Supra 384 bp is banned, Ford Focus RS the same....
This article https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/2...orque-numbers-potentially-revealed-exclusive/ is claiming a possible 525 hp and 450 lb/ft for the Mach 1 to surpass the Bullitt and be comparable to the GT 350, since it’s replacing both.The A10 as an option is a nice move in the right direction. But why can't the Mach 1 be spec'd the same whether its the A10 or the stick? That's nonsense to only provide the complete goodie package to manual customers.
I was also hoping the Mach 1 would've come with a little more power to take it a level beyond the Bullitt.
Yep. My take, from another thread:Why not make it special and give it a N/A 5.2 predator?
I'd be tormenting my local dealer already if an NA CPC 5.2 would have been the Mach engine, as the nameplate deserves its own powerplant as was the case with the '03-'04.....Some simple math, and some daydreaming:
Predator short block nets ~200cc more displacement, which is ~12 cubic inches. Bullitt-spec engine is ~1.6 HP/CI. Therefore, my dream factory Mach engine (Predator short block with Gen 3 heads) would net ~502 HP. Ding!
Considering that the Predator's bore is 1mm larger than the 5.0, cylinder head flow might be a tiny amount better since the valves would be less shrouded, so the power would likely be slightly higher as well maybe 505-510. And this with just the Gen 3 cams and Bullitt intake. Tweak cams a little, maybe that CJ intake, and we're well beyond that 505-510 HP. It would have been easy, all the parts are in the bins, after all.
I get why they did what they did, and the Mach is going to be great to a large degree. But the scenario above would have been killer, and would probably have had me waving cash instead of staying on course plotting for an eventual GT500. And probably more like me that want something a little more.
and update the gt350 with some more power and bring over the digital dash but nope we are just gonna stop making it lmfaoIf they really had enthusiasts and wanted a track capable car they would have given it the 7-speed from the GT500 or the Tremec from the GT350 as drive train options.
And the best part was when the 2005 mustang was shown aka the concept cars, sales of the 2004 mustangs tanked. I remember them selling mach 1s at list or A plan. Just greedy dealersYep.
I test drove a red auto '03 Mach back then, and it was a rocketship compared to my '01 Bullitt. I wanted to take it home, but ADM nonsense made it a no-deal for me. I hoped this new Mach would be an absolute GT killer like that '03, but nope. Maybe only road racing.