Have a big decision looming...

[VladDracule]

So over the last few years with my M1, ive had various issues. Things like a break booster needing to be replaced, to suspension/control arms/and even a sensor switch disabling my hill start assist and collision assist. Enough time was spent at the dealership service centers (over 45 days in total) for Ford via the BBB to approve a buyback under the lemon law.

The dilemma Im having, is if I take the buyback, i cant even really get anything equivalent for a few reasons, id have to go used for a M1, GT350s/Dark Horse are out of my price range now due to the insanity of interest rates, and just a base 2024 GT doesn't really appeal to me. I've always driven mustangs, since i first bought my 05 V6 as my first car purchased by myself. I find it insane that interest rates alone, are pricing me out of owning what would be an equivalent price of a car but that just happens to be the world we live in.

Has anyone here done a real comparison between our M1s and a 2024 GT? I honestly dont even know how the laws work, but isnt an MSRP swap a possibility generally? Does that mean Ford or a dealer has to be willing to sell me something else AKA a dark horse at MSRP?

What would you all want to do in this sitaution?

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[young at heart]

I’ll kinda tackle one of your questions. I own both a 2023 A10 non-HP Mach 1 and a 2024 A10 non-PP GT. So yeah, I’ve done a real comparison. Here are a few observations:

*can‘t feel much difference in 470 vs. 486 hp at this point, but remember the M1 has 3.55s vs. 3.15s in the GT. Both cars run very strong.
*The GT does have the bronze package 255x19 Conti tires, while the M1 runs the standard staggered PS4s.
*Both have AVE and I run in track mode only. The GT seems as loud as the M1. Both sound great.
*the A10 in the GT is much smoother than the M1. No idea why.
*the M1 definitely feels harder edged as it should. The GT conversely feels a little more refined.
*I am street only but push my cars pretty hard. The M1 has less body roll in a very fast, very tight sweeper but the GT is no slouch.

Drive a new GT and see what you think. They’re both newer V8 Mustangs. Unless you do a lot of track work I think you’d be good with it. But I do think you’ll need some side by side seat time to decide. I like them both, but I readily acknowledge you can only go so fast safely on the street.

 

[17MagMetal]

Hah, sounds like the situation with the guy on here shopping a GT350 with like 18 warranty claims and a lemon

If it would cause you actual financial pain to do the buyback, I would just roll with what you’ve got now. That’s just my opinion - especially since 99% of these cars will depreciate substantially over time (regardless of whether you have warranties on record).

 

[sk47]

The GT does have the bronze package 255x19 Conti tires, while the M1 runs the standard staggered PS4s.

Hello; A square tire/wheel setup will save some money over time over a staggered setup. Guess a difference on a track can be had.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Why are you considering the buy back? Seems like you've had some bad luck with repairs, but nothing catastrophic. Do you not like the car?

 

[VladDracule]

Why are you considering the buy back? Seems like you've had some bad luck with repairs, but nothing catastrophic. Do you not like the car?

A car being completely out of service for nearly a full month in one instance, in addition to other multiple 5-8 day fixes is completely unacceptable. for a new vehicle

 

[Wolfys11]

Mach1 vs gt, not a huge difference if you dont care for the rarity difference. Power wise its a minor tune and intake, its mainly handling upgrades that the mach1 is great at, but stock gt isnt that bad either for street driving. I have a gt with just drag springs 2023, and it handles well enough for any type of street driving. If you get a manual, then its a difference as you get a tremic instead mt82, if you go auto id say its similar enough that unless you go to a track, you wont notice any major differences

 

[AZ_Ryan]

A car being completely out of service for nearly a full month in one instance, in addition to other multiple 5-8 day fixes is completely unacceptable. for a new vehicle

Oh I'd be frustrated too. I get it. But a break booster, control arms, and a sensor dont seem like month long fixes, or anything egregious enough to warrent a buyback. Sounds like maybe your dealers ineptitude is part of the problem here no?

 

[Wolfys11]

You could also always put that money you can save from getting a 23 barely used for a boost adder, possibly ess supercharger as it compliments the auto very well and would cost as much as you would save for swapping to a regular gt from mach1!

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Mach1 vs gt, not a huge difference if you dont care for the rarity difference. Power wise its a minor tune and intake, its mainly handling upgrades that the mach1 is great at, but stock gt isnt that bad either for street driving. I have a gt with just drag springs 2023, and it handles well enough for any type of street driving. If you get a manual, then its a difference as you get a tremic instead mt82, if you go auto id say its similar enough that unless you go to a track, you wont notice any major differences

Spoken like a GT owner who's never driven a M1.

Pretty sure the OP already knows what he has since he owns one.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

Perhaps an M2 is suitable successor to an M1

 

[VladDracule]

Oh I'd be frustrated too. I get it. But a break booster, control arms, and a sensor dont seem like month long fixes, or anything egregious enough to warrent a buyback. Sounds like maybe your dealers ineptitude is part of the problem here no?

maybe. the sensor issue is what took nearly a month. The issue was apparently really difficult to diagnose and was cause by 1 pin on the sensor or connector being a few MM shorter that was causing it to lose contact when braking. They obviously didnt want to just outright replace everything because thats expensive to trying to narrow down the problem to a specific cause was problematic

 

[Wolfys11]

Spoken like a GT owner who's never driven a M1.

Pretty sure the OP already knows what he has since he owns one.

maybe. But his question was if a gt is a huge downgrade, based off the info he gave, and based off what the mach1 mechanically has over the gt, its nothing a few suspension upgrades wont bring up to spec or surpass the mach1

mach1 biggest advantage is the fact its a nice collector spec, the rest is nice but not necessarily a huge difference over a gt spec when talking about street driving. Nobody is taking a turn at 70mph on the street

but im not knocking the mach1, i wouldve hands down gotten one if i wasnt already past my budget with my gt

 

[Wolfys11]

maybe. the sensor issue is what took nearly a month. The issue was apparently really difficult to diagnose and was cause by 1 pin on the sensor or connector being a few MM shorter that was causing it to lose contact when braking. They obviously didnt want to just outright replace everything because thats expensive to trying to narrow down the problem to a specific cause was problematic

Its ultimately up to you and your judgment on the car

sometimes it was just the couple issues and the car will be fine moving forward

but often lemon cars dont have just a couple issues, they keep getting new ones and new ones. Its a hard situation since the new gen came out, but whichever choice you go im sure you will ultimately be happy as both specs of mustang are great!

 

[tdstuart]

Eh the problems dont seem that bad. I would keep it if it was my car and it didn't make sense to give it back and buy another.

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