Have a big decision looming...

[Paddles]

maybe. But his question was if a gt is a huge downgrade, based off the info he gave, and based off what the mach1 mechanically has over the gt, its nothing a few suspension upgrades wont bring up to spec or surpass the mach1

mach1 biggest advantage is the fact its a nice collector spec, the rest is nice but not necessarily a huge difference over a gt spec when talking about street driving. Nobody is taking a turn at 70mph on the street

but im not knocking the mach1, i wouldve hands down gotten one if i wasnt already past my budget with my gt

Not on a 90 degree 30mph neighborhood turn sure but some lonely highway turns will keep you at speed. Depends where you are too, in WA not many turns at 70 but there are a few, in TX I hit 70mph turning almost every day.

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[DarthMalice]

pull the extra filter in M1 and the HP difference is all but gone anyways (480 vs. 486)...not that you can really feel that anyways. If we are nitpicking that stuff then the Mach 1 still has a small torque advantage. Ford apparently fixed the tuning quite a bit on the AT for 24. I think they should be flashing that to the S550 AT if possible as the tuning on S550 for the AT was horrible. With all the class action lawsuits and complaints on the 10 speed AT, that would just be doing right by the customer but I digress.

 

[S550HPP]

There's no guarantee a new or new to you car will be any better.

My car has also been in the shop many times, for several weeks on at least three occasions for the 10R80 and bubbling dash.

Just think of it as a temperamental exotic like Ferraris of yester year haha.

I choose to just roll with it, though I would order a new HPP vert with the Magnaride I really wanted on the HPP vert that's wasn't avail, if it wasn't for the dash design.

Car inventories are building, heavy discounts and subsidized interest is building. Patience will be rewarded.

Wait a year and you'll be able to get into a new one with $6-8K discount and .09 finance or lease in all likelihood. You will be able to get massive discounts on '24 very soon if using finance other than Ford.

 

[young at heart]

pull the extra filter in M1 and the HP difference is all but gone anyways (480 vs. 486)...not that you can really feel that anyways. If we are nitpicking that stuff then the Mach 1 still has a small torque advantage. Ford apparently fixed the tuning quite a bit on the AT for 24. I think they should be flashing that to the S550 AT if possible as the tuning on S550 for the AT was horrible. With all the class action lawsuits and complaints on the 10 speed AT, that would just be doing right by the customer but I digress.

Has this been officially acknowledged by Ford or just kinda common knowledge? Because you’re 100% right there is a big difference between my 23 and 24 A10s. Almost like a different transmission. Very noticeable and makes my 24 GT a pleasure to drive. It’s already likely enjoying protected status in the garage from a trade, along with “my wife’s“ 20 GT convertible.

 

[young at heart]

Mach1 vs gt, not a huge difference if you dont care for the rarity difference. Power wise its a minor tune and intake, its mainly handling upgrades that the mach1 is great at, but stock gt isnt that bad either for street driving. I have a gt with just drag springs 2023, and it handles well enough for any type of street driving. If you get a manual, then its a difference as you get a tremic instead mt82, if you go auto id say its similar enough that unless you go to a track, you wont notice any major differences

maybe. But his question was if a gt is a huge downgrade, based off the info he gave, and based off what the mach1 mechanically has over the gt, its nothing a few suspension upgrades wont bring up to spec or surpass the mach1

mach1 biggest advantage is the fact its a nice collector spec, the rest is nice but not necessarily a huge difference over a gt spec when talking about street driving. Nobody is taking a turn at 70mph on the street

but im not knocking the mach1, i wouldve hands down gotten one if i wasnt already past my budget with my gt

These are fair minded and insightful observations. I have and love them both but completely concur.

A glance at this poster’s build comments quickly establishes his cred.

 

[Hack]

I wouldn't do the lemon law thing. Any time you swap cars you're going to lose money in the deal, and everything wrong with your car has been fixed. Unless you have decided you dislike your car.

I haven't driven a newer Mach or GT, but my experience with the GT350 and previous GTs is that Ford does a great job with their premium products. I think the Mach 1 you currently own is going to feel better to drive and ride in than a GT. If you prefer a newer vehicle and that's your main interest, then you could swap just to get that new car feel back. However I think a regular GT will not be as special feeling as the Mach.

There's nothing wrong with swapping cars just because you like swapping cars, but I personally would keep the Mach 1 based on what I read in your post.

 

[S550HPP]

I bought leather scent spray - two small sprays to a 3 sq in piece of fabric under my seat every few weeks - smells like new Italian leather all the time!

The '24 GTs I had as loaners drove very nicely though didn't have active exhaust. They really are luxury Grand Turisimos in driving quality. Loud exhaust and interior makes them muscle cars I guess.

M1 is a very nice car.

 

[IPOGT]

So over the last few years with my M1, ive had various issues. Things like a break booster needing to be replaced, to suspension/control arms/and even a sensor switch disabling my hill start assist and collision assist. Enough time was spent at the dealership service centers (over 45 days in total) for Ford via the BBB to approve a buyback under the lemon law.

The dilemma Im having, is if I take the buyback, i cant even really get anything equivalent for a few reasons, id have to go used for a M1, GT350s/Dark Horse are out of my price range now due to the insanity of interest rates, and just a base 2024 GT doesn't really appeal to me. I've always driven mustangs, since i first bought my 05 V6 as my first car purchased by myself. I find it insane that interest rates alone, are pricing me out of owning what would be an equivalent price of a car but that just happens to be the world we live in.

Has anyone here done a real comparison between our M1s and a 2024 GT? I honestly dont even know how the laws work, but isnt an MSRP swap a possibility generally? Does that mean Ford or a dealer has to be willing to sell me something else AKA a dark horse at MSRP?

What would you all want to do in this sitaution?

Buy a nice used M1 or go GT350. No brainer for me.

 

[BossPapa]

A car being completely out of service for nearly a full month in one instance, in addition to other multiple 5-8 day fixes is completely unacceptable. for a new vehicle

I’m admittedly anal about my cars and completely understand your frustration here. With the warranty issues now solved and assuming you’re not experiencing any more currently, I’d actually keep your great ride and make your dealer give you the longest extended warranty available at no charge for what I always call “peace of mind”. In an unrelated business I always told clients that if something is going to go wrong, it’s usually right away which is why warranty periods are usually cinsidered short.

 

[Crew4991]

OP you said rates are pricing you out of the market - what are the rates these days based on your situation?

Genuinely curious about that. I’m a cash buyer and most of my cars come from Bring a Trailer auctions. I don’t bother with bank notes so not really sure where they are at right now. I’m sure they are high though.

 

[Blufc3s]

You may have resolved all the issues with the M1, so might pay to stick with it, try to find another ford dealer for service

 

[young at heart]

I’m admittedly anal about my cars and completely understand your frustration here. With the warranty issues now solved and assuming you’re not experiencing any more currently, I’d actually keep your great ride and make your dealer give you the longest extended warranty available at no charge for what I always call “peace of mind”. In an unrelated business I always told clients that if something is going to go wrong, it’s usually right away which is why warranty periods are usually cinsidered short.

Umm, how’s that gonna work exactly?

 

[BossPapa]

Umm, how’s that gonna work exactly?

From my experience, Im guessing it would cost the dealer or Ford less money to offer an extended warranty versus a full buy back. Dealers cost on warranties are around half or less than what they sell them for so a cheap solution on their end.

 

[Wolfys11]

Not on a 90 degree 30mph neighborhood turn sure but some lonely highway turns will keep you at speed. Depends where you are too, in WA not many turns at 70 but there are a few, in TX I hit 70mph turning almost every day.

Im talking about serious turning, i do heavy turns on highway onramps and stuff at high speed too, but its not exactly something that a gt cant do, and a mach1 can was my point, both will be enough to be happy with for street stuff

 

[Paddles]

Im talking about serious turning, i do heavy turns on highway onramps and stuff at high speed too, but its not exactly something that a gt cant do, and a mach1 can was my point, both will be enough to be happy with for street stuff

Ah good point, once your tires are screaming I can see the Mach 1 having the major advantage

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